Mafia #67 - 50/50 -- The Play

[jpappy789]

OMG! You guys thought i was referring only to lab?! And that at the time i thought LAB was mafia?! I was just stating that if the mafia team invests me they will vote for me and you can use that as a way to find the mafia. This is just a big misunderstanding. And at the time i didnt think lab was mafia, that has since changed.

It really doesn't matter whether it was directed at Lab or not or whether you thought she was scum at the time (although I assumed it was since it was a reply to her question). I'm trying to figure out why you wanted to be investigated by the mafia. 1) there's no way you would KNOW that they even did so if people voted for you D2 you can't assume they are mafia 2) The people most wanting to be investigated by mafia are NCM. A NCI would want to be investigated by the CIs first and foremost.

 

[Lab_Rat]

I agree, along with Noods and the Wiz. Any reason you forgot them?

I simply looked at post counts and saw Rich had 3, Dag and Annie had 4. Annie has contributed to the discussion even with his few posts whereas the others have not. I would like to hear more from Noods and Wiz as well. Noods has posted nothing of substance yet, and neither has Wiz.

 

[IceH2O]

I bolded the part I felt was important and the part that stood out to me and originally caught my attention. His reasoning for why he said that was just plain screwy, seeing as if scum investigates him and finds him innocent they're more likely to hit him than work hard to get him lynched. Couple that with the fact that the scum don't investigate until night 2 and it just doesn't add up. If he were innocent he should have asked the communicating innocents to investigate him seeing as they have the night 1 investigation.

Ice, your reasoning this game is scaring me. It's very un-Ice like. So now you're saying I'm non-comm mafia trying to make myself look innocent? Why would I do that? I'd want the scum to investigate me, so I'd try to lay low and not make a case out of it one way or another. If I were scum, I would do whatever I could to not vote for a possible teammate, kinda like what you're doing.

Pretty sure I answered this post in my post above so I'll leave it at that.

 

[jpappy789]

The part she didn't bold says why:
then we can see how many people vote for me and when, cause i am not mafia (i wish i was thought, they have the most fun).

In FFs mind when the mafia find he is innocent they will vote for him and when he dies we'll have a suspect list.

I'm not sure I buy it and Lab could be right that he is trying to get invested so he can join him but I do have to question why she only bolded that 1 part.


I'm speculating this next part as if I'm in her head:
FF lynched he shows mafia, the town then leans her innocent. At the same time the mafia investigate her and find she is one of them so she joins the team while looking innocent to the town.

What's the motivation for investigating Lab at that point?

 

[Lab_Rat]

The part she didn't bold says why:
then we can see how many people vote for me and when, cause i am not mafia (i wish i was thought, they have the most fun).

In FFs mind when the mafia find he is innocent they will vote for him and when he dies we'll have a suspect list.

I'm not sure I buy it and Lab could be right that he is trying to get invested so he can join him but I do have to question why she only bolded that 1 part.


I'm speculating this next part as if I'm in her head:
FF lynched he shows mafia, the town then leans her innocent. At the same time the mafia investigate her and find she is one of them so she joins the team while looking innocent to the town.

Why in the world would that make the mafia team investigate me? Ice, as I said before, your reasoning is scaring me. Are you now channeling FF? :screwy:

 

[rich311k]

Let me start by saying that was a whole lot to read, then let me say it did not say much.

Is FF guilty, not sure but for anyone else making those posts I would say yes.

I worry about LR twisting FF's words around they are pretty incriminating and do not need much help.

I find the fight of semantics between Ice and Lr much more interesting than this FF silliness.

I can say I still would not waste hits or invests on FF, no matter what happened last game. That would be a waste.

I am more than willing to vote FF just to end this silliness, but lets see if anything else shakes out.

I will be home the rest of the evening and will try to be active and ask and answer questions.

 

[IceH2O]

It really doesn't matter whether it was directed at Lab or not or whether you thought she was scum at the time (although I assumed it was since it was a reply to her question). I'm trying to figure out why you wanted to be investigated by the mafia. 1) there's no way you would KNOW that they even did so if people voted for you D2 you can't assume they are mafia 2) The people most wanting to be investigated by mafia are NCM. A NCI would want to be investigated by the CIs first and foremost.

I would actually think neither would want to ask to be investigated by either. If you ask one you have to assume the other will also look into you and as FF did set yourself up for the kill by whichever team found you to be their enemy.

 

[johnlarson66]

Noods has come to my attention:

First post, looks like she knows she needs to do some reading -

Holy Smokes!! Take 24+ hours off from the computer and look how much I missed!

Is it too late for a woo hoo post?! LOL

She has read 7 pages of "basically nothing" -

ok - woo hoo!

wow 7 pages of basically nothing....maybe I will go back to my jigsaw puzzle for a while...:huh:

Notes that she has more catching up to do -

:hi: Thought you might be missing me so just checking in before I head out to church...looks like I have some catching up to do when I get home.....

Getting caught up -

wow! trying to get caught up but in all honesty it will take a couple reads to try to make some sense of it. Only having played one game with FF, and being on a communicating team with him in that game, I can say that while he does post a lot of babbling fluff he does tend to slip a tidbit every now and then. Problem being, not knowing which side he is on it could be hard to pick out of the rest of the babble. I can say that these past two games have been the busiest Day !'s i have ever seen! LOL

Need to read again and see what i can come up out of all of this..........

typo fix -

oops - should say Day 1's...

confused card played -

This whole thing is still confusing to me. I am not ready to vote for FF altho it is very tempting.............need to figure out where i stand on others.....

So noods, last game when you were teamates with FF, what tidbit did FF slip?

 

[jpappy789]

I would actually think neither would want to ask to be investigated by either. If you ask one you have to assume the other will also look into you and as FF did set yourself up for the kill by whichever team found you to be their enemy.

Agreed, but we're dealing with FF here. He specifically asked the mafia to investigate him at first...I'm not going to assume he thought it through that both teams would.

And even if he did think that both teams would, and that the opposing team would then hit him, his whole reasoning behind why he wanted to be investigated is void. He would be hit, not lynched.

 

[IceH2O]

Why in the world would that make the mafia team investigate me? Ice, as I said before, your reasoning is scaring me. Are you now channeling FF? :screwy:

You just took out one of their team mates,why wouldn't they investigate you?

If they do they either find a team mate, find a nonCI or a CI. So they either gain a team mate or have some type of way to link you to others. Then they can just try to have a case built against you,see if anyone protects you then take their hits.

Earlier I said its a team building game and not a tear down game. While the main goal is to outnumber the other team if you were able to take down communicating members of the other team you'd have a better chance of winning.