Mafia #67 - 50/50 -- The Play

[jbradt]

When I said I was still wondering why you suggested that FF should be kept around you said the simple answer was that you weren't convinced he was scum. That makes no sense seeing as you said "if FF is mafia..." so at that point if the decision for him to be kept around was made, we would have to be sure enough that he was mafia in the first place to even consider it.

Keeping him around (the way I see it) is not about being sure he's mafia, but about NOT being sure. I still think the town is making far too much out of this.

At this point, I'm going to agree to disagree and drop this point.

 

[Lab_Rat]

Wanted to catch up before I hit the bed and see its still all about FF.

I've said my piece and its where I stand unless I see something different by tomorrow. Still need to see more from the quieter players like Dag,Wiz and Kashta.

I disagree Lab that the SB is evil. The SB is a wildcard that could be a plus for the town if 2 mafia are the last on him or if the mafia hit them,in both cases they lose players. How is this evil? It is true the opposite could happen and innocents can die but if it can happen to either how do you come to the conclusion evil and has to go?

I've never considered a suicide bomber a good thing...

 

[jpappy789]

This is one of the points I was trying (unsuccessfully) to make last night. If FF gets lynched we learn nothing at this point. JMO.

How much have we ever learned from a D1 lynch?

 

[Fishfriend1]

LOL I'm supposed to believe that you got distracted for two hours? Statements like these do not make me trust you at all.

Really? Another statement that I do not believe. It's a WIFOM situation..."I wouldn't do that if I were mafia!" Sure...

I needed to take her to the hospital/vet.
Would you?

k... lots to go through, I'll try to answer what I can.Ice makes the same point that I made about Labby misinterpreting FF's post. I'm not so sure it's twisting words as an innocent following her hunch, but it seems odd to me. Especially with how detail oriented Labby usually is.

Pap... I don't see how you can say this, then use his posting as a reason to vote for him. One minute you say you just can't tell, the next you say his posts are scummy... care to commit to a view point?


FF made some little slips... he basically called me and noods out in at least one post. Yes, to be clear I think he is playing much differently this game than last... and I'm happy to take some of the credit for that. :rofl:
The responses metioned have already been given, Pappy. I hadn't gotten to them yet when I made that post. I do think that FF has a tendency to slip up and give things away if you read his posts close enough. I think keeping him around could serve 2 purposes: 1) give us a better read on his role rather than jumping on a potential townie early and giving the mafia a head start, and 2) he may well slip up and give something away if he is mafia.

Last game, no, FF did the town no good. Again, I'd like to take at least some of the credit for that. The fact of that matter is that I'm a counselor and I deal with people far more challenging than FF every day. I also work with intoxicated people, so I'm used to trying to interpret nonsense. I don't think most of the rest of the players would have the same tact to deal with him and effectively keep him quiet.


TBH Pap, everyone is still a suspect regardless of their stance on the FF debaucle. But yes, I believe those pushing so hard at FF need to be looked at with careful scrutiny. FF is an easy target, and I think there's a good chance at least one of you (I'm including everyone leading this charge, not just you and labby) is taking advantage of this.

Of course, he may also be scum. I've always said you can't tell from his posts. That being said, my vote will not fall on FF tonight. I'm not sure where it'll go yet. I probably won't decide until after work tonight.

Those call outs were not by mistake, i was distancing from noods and you, and just ensuring that no one knew i was evil.

now he says his cat choked on a toy mouse, earlier it was a marble??? does sound a bit fishy.

There are 4 things my cats are good at:
Eating, Sleeping, Drinking, and choking on stuff. I also have 4 cats.

Hey, pappy, here are the stickies that i wrote about this game:

 

[IceH2O]

Au contraire, JB. If FF comes up as scum I feel we have learned quite a lot. Not so much if he comes up innocent.

How can we learn something if mafia but not if innocent? That makes no sense at all. If mafia you think you have players protecting him but if innocent then no one should look at the players going after him?

 

[Fishfriend1]

I've never considered a suicide bomber a good thing...

Well, if im the SB then the last two suckers- i mean players- to vote for me will die.

 

[jpappy789]

I don't remember ever questioning your stickies...but ok.

Would I get into an argument if mafia? Well since I seem to be in one or two every game then yes. I'm not one to just shut up when I have a role.

 

[jbradt]

How much have we ever learned from a D1 lynch?

How many times have we had a runaway train like we're seeing here on day 1?

 

[IceH2O]

I've never considered a suicide bomber a good thing...

Again you're being close minded. I explained why he could be a good thing and you just easily overlook it. He is easily as much an asset as he is a liability.

 

[johnlarson66]

How much have we ever learned from a D1 lynch?

Good point.

I do think if he comes up part of a communicating team there are a few things to learn.