Mafia #69: Ghost Hunters Game Thread

[the wizard]

OMG, Mad you are to good to your wife. You make a woman jealous!


ok, as I am catching up with the days events, I see what Ice says and I see FF trying to worm his way to saying the same thing because there are folks believing it... of which I still don't really get because the way I see it, if you are a townie, why would you possibly want to be lynched when the evil team doesn't need to kill all townies, only as much to put one over the level of the game... meaning, if there are 4 or 5 or whatever scums, they just need to kill us off or have us lynched until there is 1 less than them and we aren't even sure of the number of them further than speculation. However, does that make me think that Ice is scum, well, I don't know... because why would scum do such a thing on day 1?? That's my thought on that...

the reason I quoted the above post is because outside of what FF is trying to say (which I still am not all 100% sure about), I find something odd in this post. The first part, you spell psychic as "phycik". Next, you spell it as . Not only is it correct, but it is bold... why? So then I read on and I see that you can't spell "psychic" correctly when typing off the cuff, nir can you go back and correct it when you see that it's wrong... but you can use a word like "expendable", and spell and use it correctly? Did you have a spelling test today?


you are now thinking that these two may be mafia but only if others think they are? I am not getting what you are getting at or trying to accomplish here, FF... no one is here to hold your hand during the game... remember, the point is trying come up with things that might be proof of the scums... not to train you on the game.. so what makes you think LR and Mael are scummy?

Worked well for him as scum or as townie? Last game, before it was called, I thought it was odd he was stuck on the great colon debate. Turns out, he was scum. This game I'm thinking it's quite odd that he said he'd rather an innocent vet get lynched than an innocent FF/noob. It makes me want to vote for him...

That's true, that did work out well. What do you think of his theory that better a vet be lynched than FF/a noob in this format?

DD, the part in red you are questioning FF. Now I could be wrong but in a couple of posts this game it has appeared as though he has been trying to post the way he sees others post.

As examples i have pulled three of LR's posts. Remember a couple of games ago she was CI and on a vendetta to get FF lynched D1. Here she is dealing with a more experienced player in going after Ice. see below.

Lol, I want to lynch scum too.

Does Ice saying it may be better to vote for an innocent vet vs. innocent FF/noob seem scummy? This question is for everyone as it strikes me as a bit of a scummy thing to say.

 

[Dangerdoll]

DD, the part in red you are questioning FF. Now I could be wrong but in a couple of posts this game it has appeared as though he has been trying to post the way he sees others post.

As examples i have pulled three of LR's posts. Remember a couple of games ago she was CI and on a vendetta to get FF lynched D1. Here she is dealing with a more experienced player in going after Ice. see below.

ok... not really sure I am comfortable with that thought, Wiz... I can see asking for advice but this one just seemed different to me...

I am not sure what you are getting at here, Wiz.. and ok, a couple of games ago, she was CI... the thing is now though, is that there is not communicating innocent team this game and it is Day 1... so if anyone is communicating, it is the mafia side. Are you trying to clear them or deem them as more scummy? I am not following you here.

 

[the wizard]

DangI need to preview before posting lol I placed my comments in the wrong position in my last post

 

[the wizard]

ok... not really sure I am comfortable with that thought, Wiz... I can see asking for advice but this one just seemed different to me...

I am not sure what you are getting at here, Wiz.. and ok, a couple of games ago, she was CI... the thing is now though, is that there is not communicating innocent team this game and it is Day 1... so if anyone is communicating, it is the mafia side. Are you trying to clear them or deem them as more scummy? I am not following you here.

I guess what I am getting at is I love his enthusiasm for the game.

I think that in his enthusiasm he gets over excited and has a hard time slowing down and pulling his thoughts together, as a result his posts always look scummy.

LR on the other hand, was twisting his words to get him lynched but in this game, she is asking everyone else their thoughts before voting Ice.

FF seeing a more experienced player asking that way tried to emulate that kind of posting style.

 

[the wizard]

A bit of a reach there, Wizard... IMO. But I'll respond.

I was fairly busy with the thread yesterday and haven't been through this as much today... I do what I can with the time I get for this. I did read through what was going on and had been thinking about Ice's suggestion since last night.

I looked over the thread again, wrote up my post (voting Ice), and as I normally do, I refreshed the page to see what else had posted before submitting my post. That's when I saw Lab's post where she also voted Ice for pretty much the same reason I was going to. I added an introductory sentence to my previewed post then.... in agreement with Lab Rat's conclusion.... and posted it. I didn't feel it was necessary to change anything just because it seems Lab and I view Ice's position the same way. I saw later that Bio came along and followed to place a 3rd vote against Ice.

Your theory that the 3 of us are in cahoots because the votes happened to come along at the same time is incorrect. Given the timing, however, and placement of our posts, I say it's still a fair question. I'd like to hear responses as well from both Lab Rat and Bio.

I'll also ask you (Wizard) to consider this: If the three of us were communicating scummates plotting away... (1) do you really think it'd take either Lab Rat or myself a whole evening and most of today for us to deliberate about Ice before voting him?, (2) if we were planning this as scummates, why on earth would we foolishly post the same thing at the same time?, and (3) are you overlooking the point that other seemingly rational (?) players have voiced similar suspicions about Ice for what he posted?

As I stated, I can see why the timing might raise this question... but think it's a bit much to accuse 3 different players of being mafia teammates over that alone. If you have other reasons for suspicion, please point them out.

That said, I wonder a bit about Biohazard jumping in with her vote the way she did and when she did because it possibly sounded to her like a safe place to be at that point in the thread. I'm a little suspicious about Bio already because prior to her vote, she'd made 4 totally useless posts plus only 1 more where she actually made a point.



A good point to make when this was posted, but her participation is still too low for us to tell much about Bio in this game.

Lab (so far) seems to be trying to help the town as far as I can tell (so far). In her case, I take that with a grain of salt.

From what I have seen in previous games, it takes LR a considerable amount of time in the scumden before doing anything in the game thread.

You I don't know I haven't played against you when you were CM. Is this my first?

Bio is new and seems to be pretty much like she was last game with few exceptions. Are you keeping her in line?

As for other suspicions, with the reef taking so much of my time I haven't been on here much but you can never get much to go on d1 anyway, time will tell and as I see things to suspect I will post them.

 

[[AC] maelstrom]

Wizard, ice never volunteered to be lynched...he said he would welcome it so don't try to paint it like hes sacrificing himself for the good of the town.

see below:

You're saying you want to be lynched?

No not really. But this game lends credence to if we're going to make an early innocent lynch mistake it should be on a vet that can help us from the other side and not FF or a noob.

 

[BioHazard]

Ok, this is interesting, yesterday Ice made his statement about vet vs newb.

No one called him on it other than to say that it might be true but, we weren't willing to risk it.

Today, we have three jumping on him for it. LR, Kashta, and bio.

Let me ask the three of you this, do you really think scum would volunteer to be lynched? Wouldn't be a stretch, IMO. Surely you have heard of reverse psychology?

Think about it, it is day one and we never have much to go on in day one.

We historically end up lynching townies for that reason.

These three votes have caused me to think maybe we have a female scum team this time around.

The scum have an advantage as they know already who is innocent. Now suppose, (and I don't intend for this to be a defense of anyone I am just trying to put it out there for thought because I don't know either.) that FF is innocent as he claims.

The scum are willing to let him be lynched as it is another innocent gone. Ice makes his statement, and after a day of discussion in the scum den they decide that they can use that statement to lynch a more formidable foe than what is already on the chopping block and not look scummy doing it.

I may have made a target of myself with this theory but so be it. I want to get it out there and give them a chance to respond. Meanwhile I will think on it and if I see reason to I will move my vote.

Defending a team mate perhaps, Wiz? Why so worried about him getting a few votes, especially so early in a game? I think it is already pretty obvious who is going to be lynched.

I said why I made my choice. I wanted to make sure I had a vote in before the last minute, and knew that I would have plenty of time to change it.

A bit of a reach there, Wizard... IMO. But I'll respond.

I was fairly busy with the thread yesterday and haven't been through this as much today... I do what I can with the time I get for this. I did read through what was going on and had been thinking about Ice's suggestion since last night.

I looked over the thread again, wrote up my post (voting Ice), and as I normally do, I refreshed the page to see what else had posted before submitting my post. That's when I saw Lab's post where she also voted Ice for pretty much the same reason I was going to. I added an introductory sentence to my previewed post then.... in agreement with Lab Rat's conclusion.... and posted it. I didn't feel it was necessary to change anything just because it seems Lab and I view Ice's position the same way. I saw later that Bio came along and followed to place a 3rd vote against Ice.

Your theory that the 3 of us are in cahoots because the votes happened to come along at the same time is incorrect. Given the timing, however, and placement of our posts, I say it's still a fair question. I'd like to hear responses as well from both Lab Rat and Bio.

I'll also ask you (Wizard) to consider this: If the three of us were communicating scummates plotting away... (1) do you really think it'd take either Lab Rat or myself a whole evening and most of today for us to deliberate about Ice before voting him?, (2) if we were planning this as scummates, why on earth would we foolishly post the same thing at the same time?, and (3) are you overlooking the point that other seemingly rational (?) players have voiced similar suspicions about Ice for what he posted?

As I stated, I can see why the timing might raise this question... but think it's a bit much to accuse 3 different players of being mafia teammates over that alone. If you have other reasons for suspicion, please point them out.

That said, I wonder a bit about Biohazard jumping in with her vote the way she did and when she did because it possibly sounded to her like a safe place to be at that point in the thread. I'm a little suspicious about Bio already because prior to her vote, she'd made 4 totally useless posts plus only 1 more where she actually made a point. I think a suspicion based on useless posts is a bit of a stretch here. The last game, I spent most of my time posting lolcats. It is the first day, and useless posts are pretty typical.
In the last game, I made the DISASTROUS mistake of posting at the last minute, and it was recommended to me to post early, as it is easy to change later.



A good point to make when this was posted, but her participation is still too low for us to tell much about Bio in this game.
I will endeavor to post more lolcats for you.

Lab (so far) seems to be trying to help the town as far as I can tell (so far). In her case, I take that with a grain of salt.

 

[the wizard]

that is true mael, however I do find it hard to believe scum would welcome being lynched.

 

[BioHazard]

 

[the wizard]

Defending a team mate perhaps, Wiz? Why so worried about him getting a few votes, especially so early in a game? I think it is already pretty obvious who is going to be lynched.

I said why I made my choice. I wanted to make sure I had a vote in before the last minute, and knew that I would have plenty of time to change it.

If you knew you had plenty of time to change it then why did you have to worry about getting it in before the last minute?