Mafia #69: Ghost Hunters Game Thread

[AC] maelstrom;2339059 said:
Question...

why do you think ff is innocent?

just trying to see your thought process here.

my first impressions of ff is that he's someone that the mafia would want around to act as a distraction. I remember in the past that this has worked very well for teams to leave in someone who acts very suspiciously, and gets votes, but never push for their lynch. so I agree that if ff does get lynched that those who rile him up so to say should be scrutinized for doing so and not voting him. guilty as charged here but its so hard to read what he says and not respond since its like a puzzle :irked:

I really have no reason to believe he is except that he always posts this way. Look thru the thread and prove me wrong on my next thought. A lot of players just want to vote him off because he is a distraction,not because he is scummy but could be. FF is an easy target and with any player like that I like to watch the reaction of others against him. JL I'm not sure of, he always votes the 1st role player. But from that point on everyone grabbed and ran with a twisting of a statement of him saying we'll both be sorry if I'm lynched. How exactly does that equate to him insinuating him and JL are on a team and if that is the thought we votes on JL? Isn't he more a threat as scum then FF? If you're sure this statement was scummy the votes should be on his so called team mate and not FF. If you're not sure that FF is evil then you shouldn't be voting him IMO.

ok, so then you would also consider FF to have thus same thought process... I am not so sure about that.


You don't think FF knows that Lab is better at this then he is?
 
Let's look at your posts



You stated you didn't want to make a last minute post.



You again state you didn't want to make a last minute post, only this time you state that you knew you would have plenty of time to change it.

I don't know if you are aware of this or not but contradicting yourself is scummy.

I retract my vote on capt caveman and vote to lynch Bio.


How is that contradictory? I am afraid you need to dust off your dictionary. In both statements you pulled, I mention the ability to change a vote, and the fact that I didn't want to change my vote.

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I really have no reason to believe he is except that he always posts this way. Look thru the thread and prove me wrong on my next thought. A lot of players just want to vote him off because he is a distraction,not because he is scummy but could be. FF is an easy target and with any player like that I like to watch the reaction of others against him. JL I'm not sure of, he always votes the 1st role player. But from that point on everyone grabbed and ran with a twisting of a statement of him saying we'll both be sorry if I'm lynched. How exactly does that equate to him insinuating him and JL are on a team and if that is the thought we votes on JL? Isn't he more a threat as scum then FF? If you're sure this statement was scummy the votes should be on his so called team mate and not FF. If you're not sure that FF is evil then you shouldn't be voting him IMO.




You don't think FF knows that Lab is better at this then he is?

Should read...If that is the thought where are the votes on JL?
 
Ok, this is interesting, yesterday Ice made his statement about vet vs newb.

No one called him on it other than to say that it might be true but, we weren't willing to risk it.

Today, we have three jumping on him for it. LR, Kashta, and bio.

Let me ask the three of you this, do you really think scum would volunteer to be lynched?

Think about it, it is day one and we never have much to go on in day one.

We historically end up lynching townies for that reason.

These three votes have caused me to think maybe we have a female scum team this time around.

The scum have an advantage as they know already who is innocent. Now suppose, (and I don't intend for this to be a defense of anyone I am just trying to put it out there for thought because I don't know either.) that FF is innocent as he claims.

The scum are willing to let him be lynched as it is another innocent gone. Ice makes his statement, and after a day of discussion in the scum den they decide that they can use that statement to lynch a more formidable foe than what is already on the chopping block and not look scummy doing it.

I may have made a target of myself with this theory but so be it. I want to get it out there and give them a chance to respond. Meanwhile I will think on it and if I see reason to I will move my vote.

Wiz, I didn't realize you were a skimmer too...

I've been asking Ice about that statement since he made it. I generally don't immediately vote, I like to think about things and wanted to hear more from him, and what others thought, about his idea. He is talented enough to play these sort of mind games as scum. The whole reverse psychology thing..."let me throw it out there that I'm willing to sacrifice myself for the town and then they'll think I'm innocent and won't vote for me. Surely a scum player would never suggest such a thing..."


I guess what I am getting at is I love his enthusiasm for the game.

I think that in his enthusiasm he gets over excited and has a hard time slowing down and pulling his thoughts together, as a result his posts always look scummy.

LR on the other hand, was twisting his words to get him lynched but in this game, she is asking everyone else their thoughts before voting Ice.

FF seeing a more experienced player asking that way tried to emulate that kind of posting style.

I agree, his enthusiasm for the game is great. I'm not sure if he's scummy so I don't want to lynch him over being excited. Don't you think if I were scum I'd jump on the easy lynch of FF? I'm certainly not leaning him innocent but I don't want to make the mistake I made in that game you mentioned again. And if you remember, I was a communicating innocent that game.

that is true mael, however I do find it hard to believe scum would welcome being lynched.

See my response above. It's the whole reverse psychology/WIFOM argument. You find it hard to believe so they do just that.

[AC] maelstrom;2339047 said:
exactly what he would want us to think if he's scum...and it seems you've already fallen for it. i would think ice of all people could pull something like this off. kashta already outlined the scenarios, rather in depth I might add.

Im not saying that i completely think Ices little charade is a scum tactic but i have to consider it. especially since he somehow thinks hes better to the town dead than alive.

This is a lot of what I'm thinking, but I find it to be the scummiest thing to go on so far for day 1. FF may be scum, he may be pulling a FF. Ice is playing mind games with the town, not something a townie should do.
 
Mr. Palmer looks around and sees Lab rat and Ice and thinks: "those two seem to have been here a long time, longer then me anyway, and they are both better then me, i will try to post and act like them and hopefully i will learn how to play better from it" he hopes that he lives long enough to put that theory to the test.
 
he also would like to remind everyone that he HAS improved since game 1.
 
Oh, and can we get a vote count?
 
he also would like to remind everyone that he HAS improved since game 1.


g/o You have improved a lot. You still need to settle down and think before you post. I always try to read mine a couple of times and even then sometimes I get myself lynched for being over-excited. g/o
 
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