Mafia #69: Ghost Hunters Game Thread

Annie, what about JL (that Wiz has pointed out) do you find yourself agreeing with?
Annie if you could answer this question from post 647 when you check in on Saturday that'd be great.

I'll post some thoughts a little later this morning, Additionally, unless we get rain here today, I'll be at my son's soccer practice when night falls and during the time leading up to nightfall.
 
I just can't seem to get passed the contradictions in Lab's posts...This is from 4/22, after first nightfall

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So after a 14 hour day with 3 hours sleep my brain wasn't working well. When I saw Noods vote jump right before nightfall (and I didn't have any problem with the time, idk why everyone else was so confused), {snip}



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I'm comfortable with my vote on Ice, I think what he's done is the most scummy thing out there so far. I think it's hilarious you're moving your vote last minute from a vote that really counts to one that doesn't seem to mean anything.

What sort of post are you expecting? I think Ice is scum, much more scummy than Bio or FF. I think your vote switch is highly suspect, you don't want to be accused of voting for an innocent. I don't care that it's to me, I care that you're suddenly pulling off last minute. Noods, between your "lack of time", lack of posts, and last minute vote switch I'm thinking you're scummy. I'd totally switch to you right now if it would do something. Obviously it wouldn't, but kudos on protecting your scum buddy.

It's the convenient timing of the vote switch and the whole situation surrounding it that is uber scummy. You don't find it suspicious?

I'm not getting OMGUSy. My vote is on Ice, I think he is scum. Maybe you misunderstood what I wrote, the way you have taken it is not what I meant at all. I was simply pointing out that I thought it was scummy for Noods to go from a lynching vote (tie vote) to a non-committal vote right before nightfall. I kinda thought she might jump off of me last minute when I turned out to be the one up for the lynch since she wouldn't want to face the heat when I showed innocent. Maybe her computer overheated and she couldn't.


It seems you had a major with the timing of my vote switch. :rolleyes:

now onto the JL/Wiz issue, during my lunch break. time to get some work done.....
 
Vote count so far.

(2) JL - Wiz(553) CCM(688)
(1) Lady G - JRR(554)
(6) Lab - Ice(556), nood(559), annie(645), lady g(648), maelstrom(653) Dawg(708)
(0) Ice - JL(563), Lab(580), Rich(759)
(1) Wiz - Bio(629)
(1) Noods - Labrat(680)
(1) Annie - JL(793)

No votes from: DangerDoll, I Love Mollies, Lady G, Madcrawdad

Nightfall in 9 hours 40 minutes. 8:00 eastern
 
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the bickering between jl and wiz seems to be going no where...I cant even tell what they are both getting at.

I dont see anything convincing enough yet for me to move my vote either.

still curious too as to what Annies answer will be to mad's Q.

also wondering if ILM is actually going to join the game and play.....
 
As promised, here's my thoughts on the players that I find most interesting at this point.

CCM - IMO Cavie seems to be trying to blend in. When I asked him to expand on why JL was 'raising his eyebrow' on D1 he came on and off the thread a couple of times without answering. Once I voted for him, though, he responded within a matter of minutes. Maybe a coincidence, but definitely interesting.

Also the disparity between what he said about JL and FF... (JL being scummy for poking at FF), but then voting for FF. Ultimately he removed his vote from FF late, to vote for JL. That was odd, though, as with bandwagons on his three suspects, he chose to move his vote late to where it wouldn't make a difference...where he wouldn't be responsible for lynching anybody.

Not seeing anything on D2 that makes me change my perception of him.


Lab - A couple of inconsistencies in her posts. Could be possible scum slips. The more I think about it, one of the things that bothers me is I think that Lab is a better player than to really make these slips as scum. It's possible that she's flustered, as I've seen her get that way before. Need to watch further.


Wiz - Wiz's play has been bothering me. The whole business with hammering away that JL has not been answering Kash's/Wiz's questions is odd. When pressed on this, Wiz then admitted that he really didn't expect an answer to his own question (yet he mentioned it multiple times to make JL appear scummy), and then couldn't even find a good example of Kash's questions that went unanswered. So what was all the jumping up and down about, if not just to throw scum onto another player?

It's also interesting that, late on D1, Wiz completely jumped on board with Kash's arguments against JL, and come N1 Kash ends up NKed. He then says how he could see certain players being responsible for her death. Thing is, I could see Wiz being responsible for Kash's hit... Scum cozying up to soon-to-be-dead townies is a strategy that's been seen before. Scum buddies up with townie, and when the townie flips, scum hopes for instant 'townie cred.' Maybe, maybe not.


Annie - Annie's lurking bothers me. The thing is, that I can't really believe 100% that he's got lots going on outside the game. Twice I've seen him in previous chats saying that his strategy would be to lay low and make up excuses as to why he's not posting.

It also bothers me that in his one post from the day before yesterday, Annie listed JL as a suspect because he agreed with what Wiz had been saying. IMO Wiz had simply been agreeing with what Kashta had been saying about JL. So Wiz was yelling loudly that JL was scum, but all of his reasoning was 'what she said'... So was Annie agreeing with Wiz that he should be agreeing with Kashta? Odd.

The fact that Annie never answered my question regarding what he agreed with Wiz about doesn't help him either.


Bio
JRR
Dawg
ILM

None of these guys are really diving in much, which doesn't help.

JRR and Dawg are experienced players, so they should understand that their participation would be helpful to the town. Could be a problem.

Bio looks like they may be trying, but seems a little caught up with post counts and pointing out where she(?) falls with regard to post counts. Odd.

ILM - WTH? This guy/gal makes Agissizzii and Texasguy seem like Grins when it comes to number/quality of posts.


I still want to think a little before throwing a vote, but I'm probably leaning either Wiz, CCM or Annie.
 
whew!! Sorry for my absence last night guys, I was celebrating my birthday. Tonight, my sister and nephew are coming and Mr. Doll has a gig and we will be celebrating at the show too... I have skimmed as best as I could and here are my findings...

I am on the fence between JL and Ice. Both are excellent players and are completely butting heads. Would this be considered distancing, I don't know... either one is not obvious enough. Wiz is also pushing on JL.... could it be that JL is evil and Wiz and Ice recognize it or could it be that Wiz and Ice are teaming up on JL... I just am not sure. Then I see G is also lightly in the mix... I wonder if the team could in fact be Ice, JL, Wiz, and G... I am not ready to settle on that observation though.

JRR, not really sure what his deal is but I certainly have not heard or seen a lot from him... or Annie, or ILM, or Rich... I know Rich has some posts out there but I can't really say they have been wonderfully helpful.

Labby, I am sorry that you are dealing with your g-pa being hurt, and your work schedule and I am glad your g-pa is feeling better and all but I guess I could have understood your explanation of being overworked and stressed and having no sleep while making the post that Ice pointed out... but the whole explanation afterwards after you said you were going to have some rest just isn't sitting right with me. In case I canot make it back, I feel like I am going to have to go with the consensus and I vote to lynch Labby.

I will be able to be more available this weekend as my schedule will lighten up.
 
[AC] maelstrom;2341760 said:
the bickering between jl and wiz seems to be going no where...I cant even tell what they are both getting at.

I completely agree with this. to be honest I find the entire situation hard to follow and I have lost interest......*sigh* it would be so much easier if people would stop saying "you never anwered my questions" without re-posting or quoting the original question! with over 800 posts in the game who can remember what the question was? :confused:
 
So, I have 2 kids home today had to call in. I will be able to view the thread throughout the day. (yay, sick kids LMAO!)

Lab I have a question for you now...Ok, not sure what post number it was but in one of your posts you say you are now leaning Ice more innocent, but are sticking by your claim about Noods vote switch being scummy. My question is, you first posted you thought she did it to "save" Ice her evil partener. If you now see Ice as leaning more innocent, how would this hold up?
 
Now for some things that have be digging at me with the whole John thing. Bear with me guys, this may get goofy but I just have been thinking so much about it.
Anyway, John posted he thought (at the time) he kept his vote on FF because he thought Ice was protecting him and he (FF) may of been the prime evil. I actually could see this and accept this from John. Obviously it did not turn out that way as FF was innocent. I even had that thought a few times during day one, the way Ice posted his thought about lynching him instead. I did not take that post as many did, I did see Ices point in it. Now, knowing Ice and how he can play...can anyone see him doing that KNOWING FF was going to show innocent, thus making him appear more innocent once we knew the truth about FF? Yes, I know I have said I was leaning Ice more innocent then evil and right now I am not sure what I think, Ice is tricky do not forget this. I really can't say I think him more evil or innocent right now. He (Ice) really hasn't posted much that would seem "scummy" to me...but as I said he is tricky, he knows the game well and plays it well.
Now, taking this in consideration...add Wizard and his relentless pursuit after John and his "sidestepping" questions. I really don't see where that happened, not to the extent that Wizard has been shoving it down our throats. I agree with Mael...if the questions were not that important, why did he (Wizard) continue to bring it up over and over and over and over and over and over and over?
Yes, Kash was going after John questioning him and she did end up innocent. Innocents are wrong all the time and had she not been hit, who knows what her opinion would be now. She was hit though, and I think whoever did it may of been trying to "set" John up. Knowing JL was going to be questioned by many and many's top suspect, having Kashs posts to use against him (a dead innocents last words so to speak) I'm sure they thought it would be kinda easy to get others to join in on lynching John.
I just have such a hard time believing John would of been the one to put the hit on Kash. Yes, it IS possible just don't think probable.
Right now, I'm just not sure what I think I put John in the same spot as Ice not more scum or innocent at this time.
 
whew!! Sorry for my absence last night guys, I was celebrating my birthday. Tonight, my sister and nephew are coming and Mr. Doll has a gig and we will be celebrating at the show too... I have skimmed as best as I could and here are my findings...

I am on the fence between JL and Ice. Both are excellent players and are completely butting heads. Would this be considered distancing, I don't know... either one is not obvious enough. Wiz is also pushing on JL.... could it be that JL is evil and Wiz and Ice recognize it or could it be that Wiz and Ice are teaming up on JL... I just am not sure. Then I see G is also lightly in the mix... I wonder if the team could in fact be Ice, JL, Wiz, and G... I am not ready to settle on that observation though.

JRR, not really sure what his deal is but I certainly have not heard or seen a lot from him... or Annie, or ILM, or Rich... I know Rich has some posts out there but I can't really say they have been wonderfully helpful.

Labby, I am sorry that you are dealing with your g-pa being hurt, and your work schedule and I am glad your g-pa is feeling better and all but I guess I could have understood your explanation of being overworked and stressed and having no sleep while making the post that Ice pointed out... but the whole explanation afterwards after you said you were going to have some rest just isn't sitting right with me. In case I canot make it back, I feel like I am going to have to go with the consensus and I vote to lynch Labby.

I will be able to be more available this weekend as my schedule will lighten up.
Hope you had a blast for your Bday Doll!!!!

yep, I'm "in the mix" most likely because I am actually posting :headshake2:

OH AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY MAD!!!:dance:
 
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