Okay I'm pretty sure I've been clear the differnce is that for whatever reason you suggested the same play two games in a row and in the first one you were evil. I don't think the UD getting staked was ever really an option because it it went that far a vamp would have found a reason to move. In the meantime it gives the illusion of helpfulness to put forth the plan.
What makes you think this? Was that the plan?
G they get the two players anyway. Kash is staked anyway you slice it. Ice is all ready on the hook for taking the blame -why go to the trouble of framing him? Kash all ready took care of making him look guilty. Taking care of 2 people that were a huge threat is pretty much a done deal why pass up a turn?
I hate to say it, but i agree. I still think it was just a case of "i thought
you were sending in the PM!"
My problem with this statement is that by lead vamp I guess you mean Dracula. Dracula's only extra power was a one time extra bite. That's been used so he is the same as any other vamp. Whether Ice is Dracula or not he is definitely "lead" vamp at this point. He's the one with the experince and the track record, the other vamps will take his lead whether his Dracula or a lesser vamp. So whether or not he's Dracula is irrelevant.
My problem with your statement is it could imply that since Ice is not the lead vamp we should possibly vote one of your other two choices as it's better to get the lead vamp.
Unless Ice isn't actually a vamp. The more you attack him, the more I see the vamp plan. If Kashta lived and Ice turned innocent, the town would go for Kash, wasting a day and killing another townie. If Kash went (like she did, my fault) you would lead the attack on Ice to make urself look like an unsuspecting, helpful innocent; while at the same time disteracting us and getting rid of another good townie player.
My other problem is that 2H is under suspicion because we think he's being coached. If he was all ready being coached why would he recruit a new coach?
Well, your really good at the game. You could be his coach, and your defending him.
What do they gain from confusion? Day 2 outcome is the same, Day 3 outcome is likely Ice either way so no benefit achieved. They risk a slayer attack tonight, and a ghost attack and possibly another slayer attack on day 4. Getting fancy with a pointless set up buys them nothing and the delay increases their risks. Confusion versus an increase in numbers doesn't seem worth the risk. Better to grow their numbers or diminish ours so they have a better control of the vote.
Well, if they confuse us enuff, they can make a last minute vote jump, and (assuming there are 3) kill off an innocent, turn one, get the slayer to kill one, and then it would be... 9-3=6 so it would be 6 to 4 and they win. Thats only if my math is correct.
I think the rest of the post explained what I meant G. The benefit of confusion does not outweigh the benefit of the turn/bite in this game at this time. It's simple risk/reward anaylsis.
Yes it does, if the above is correct (my above statment)
Chill watches G carefully and intently. He smiles it's always fun to watch G. He wonders why she seems so protective of Ice, he hopes it's simple confusion. He remembers a short time ago when she accused him of being a bad boy and wonders if she might be bad herself. That could be fun he thinks, distracted by the thought for a moment....
What the **** c'mon G let's have a drink while he sun is shining and the vamps are sleeping. He holds out his bottle...
<<Fade out to Pat Benetar>>
Creepy...:uhoh:
A brief pang of rejection makes his smile falter just a little, he covers it with a swig. No problem G catch you next time he says. Leaving her with a last smile he heads off to the old swimming hole to relax by the water and finish his bottle.
<<Fade out to Trooper (classic Canadain rock)
"We're here for a good time
Not a long time (not a long time)
So have a good time
The sun can't shine everyday
And the sun is shinin,
In this rainy city,
And the sun is shinin,">>
Stalker...:grinno:
Chill sits by the river feet dangling in the water, ice cold beer in his hand, and contemplates the days events. He's very comfortable with his vote on Ice and decides it's time to think about other things. Natuarlly his mind turns to G, oh well she'll come around at the end of the day when she sees he had no bad intentions.
Closing his eyes he enjoys the sun on his face and the cool water on his feet.
<<fade out to Our Lady Peace
Last time I talked to you
You were lonely and out of place
You were looking down on me
Lost out in space
We laid underneath the stars
Strung out and feeling brave
I watched the red orange glow
I watched you float away>>
Super stalker...:grinyes:
Well if Ice burst into ash at the end of a stake - I wouldn't be confident that there were only two left, this could me misinformation just as easy as it could be a slip.
Are you reading my posts, he called for the UD vote in the last game and he was evil, so he certainly would push such a controversial theory when evil, he would, he did, read day 1 of the last game.
More attacking Ice, makes me more sure that A) Ice is innocent and you are trying to ensure his death or B) Both of you are scum and you are distancing and making yourself the "helpful, trustworthy innocent".
That's the first time keep reading
he made the same suggestion at least once more
"pushed" was Rich"s word which I was responding to - if you check my earlier posts I generally said floated or suggested.
They basically mean the same thing with Ice. He flaots an idea (as far as i've seen) and others look into it simply because he is such a good player.
Okay he wouldn't do it unless it was going to be a quick game, or unless there was lots going on, (nevermind it was a quick game with very little going on), or unles he was confident it was a defensible action. Which either it is or all his team mates are coming out to defend the indefensible.
Yet agin you are implicating Ice. Every time you do this my instincts say:"Holy crap, hes targeting Ice way to much, only a scum would target someone this much ,especially when they could possible win in one night, if all woks wall for them..."
Thats all for now, just got to see where Chill has his vote, and why...
