LG... I don't like this plan at all. That last stake is hugely important. It could win the game for the town. If Dag doesn't find another vamp and we stake Wiz, then the slayer is still left on their own to make a decision. I don't like hinging the game's results on such a big "if".
To the first paragraph... WTF? Can you really think this is a good idea? If Dag names who he would invest, I can see the vamps biting exactly that person... it gives whoever is left plausible deniability. They could use it to give up that person and make themselves look good to the rest of the town. But part of me thinks you already know that...
To the second part: the thing is, we just can't know; and WIFOM arguments are going to get us nowhere but bitten. I get that you were saying your point. And you've gone on to repeat it here... presumably for FF... it doesn't sit any better with me now than it did then.
LG, I have to start out by saying thanks for the compliment; that was a very nice thing to say. With that out of the way; I can assure you that investing me would be a huge waste. We would gain nothing from it other than you knowing what I already do. Which you can tell if you look at my posts objectively.
I pulled this post of Chill's for context, (for the record, I still have chill leaning innocent)
LG... the thing that bothers me about this isn't that you're looking for the turn. We're all doing that. I believe also that it is Wiz and last night's turn left. The part that ruffles me is that you're again making WIFOM arguments rather than looking at posts and gameplay. There are enough excellent strategists on the vamp team at this point. All they need are warm bodies. Who would they leave behind... indeed.
Here LG agrees with Chill's idea that Dag might yet be a vamp. While I admit it is a possibility; I just don't see it being the case this time; again, I won't go into detail; but I'm 99.99% sure Dag is who he says he is. This being said, I don't fault Chill for bringing up the possibility. I had the same thought myself before nightfall. What bothers me is LG subtly supporting the theory without really taking any sort of stand one way or the other.
I have to say, LG... you're looking worse and worse with each passing post. It seems to me like you're just floating ideas out there to see what anyone will latch on to rather than looking at evidence and taking a stand. Also, why is it you keep talking about what a good player I am and totally leaving yourself off the list? Trying to blend in much?
If Dag wants to invest me, that's fine. It'll be a waste (at least for tonight), but I'm okay with it. You seem to be trying to keep that finger off yourself.
Yes, the last stake is VERY important..which is why I thought it may be a good idea to save it until we have more info. As I said, I don't know that it would be the best thing to do...but waiting does give us the advantage to hopefully have more info.
Again, not saying Dag SHOULD say who he plans to invest, but IF he did and they bit that person they would show as vamp, because the invest comes AFTER the bite. So it just may help "save" a innocent at least for that night. I really do not know that it is the thing to do though, again just a thought.
Sorry if what I say doesn't sit well with you, I am just posting things I think in hopes that something will help us.
I don't think a invest on anyone is a waste. No it may not always show a vamp but it isn't a waste, you learn something from each invest.
I was "supporting" nothing JB, I simply said yes I have thought of that also.
I always look worse and worse to ppl when I post, it's been said many times I am the mafia's best friend when innocent.
Of course I want to be left off the "list" JB, a stake in me is NOT going to get the town what they want...obviously there is nothing I can do to prove it, but i can assure you it will not help win for the town. If you are trying to put me in the "good player" list, obviously this game proves that is incorrect.
If Dag or anyone wants Dag to invest me, that would be just fine with me..in fact that would be wonderful to me, but you will not find a Vamp.
I know this in no way makes me look innocent, I know there is nothing I can do to prove I am not vamp except say I am not, and hope that you, other townies, and the slayer can see past all my goof ups and actually find a vamp.
