Mafia 73: Werewolf Game!

Alright so I finally have a little time to put some more thought into this infestation. I reviewed the majority of Lab Rat's postings and I am more convinced that she is a WW over Kashta. I originally suspected that both of them were working together trying to distance from one another but I don't think it would have gone on this long to where they are putting themselves up against one another for the lynch vote. Although it is possible that they are thinking long term and trying to clear the others name but I doubt it as the WW having been routing the innocents this game. I became really suspicious of LR after posted this statement after nightfall 1.

Lab_Rat said:
Ok, I'm a bit delirious after working almost an 11 hour shift on 1 hour of sleep, so bear with me here...



When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras. My whole reason for lynching Zaffy was that I thought he and jpap were working in tandem. I even stated, iirc, that I would happily vote for jpap. So when jpap showed as a townie, and a PR at that, there is no way I could hold Zaffy as my most scummy suspect. No where did I say he's off my suspect list, just that he's no longer the primary. If you go back and look at their posting, they were "tag-teaming". It was not a case of one following another. Therefore, that drops Zaffy down on my list.

Please, show me where I have defended Zaffy. I don't see it, and he's still on my suspect list.

I would not be so simplistic? JB, you've forgotten how I play when I'm scum. When I am scum, I love to come up with off the wall, yet plausible theories just to confuse the town. So the fact that I'm not throwing crazy ideas out there now makes me scummy? I thought you said you'd played with me a lot before... I'll admit, I haven't invested as much effort into this game (though it's very early in the game still) due to my rl schedule.



WTF are you smoking? My vote didn't follow anyone. In fact, I think I was the first one to make a real vote following nightfall. I listed my reasons for voting for Zaffy, they were legit for the information I had at the time. You may want to lay the crack pipe down now... I'm beginning to wonder just what your agenda is, you are twisting many things to suit your theory.



LG, if you look at the timing and what was posted by Zaffy and jpap, you'll see that one wasn't following the other. Instead, they appeared to be working in tandem, continuing on each others' ideas. Looked like teamwork to me. I wasn't ready to jump all over JM for being aggressive at that point either. I do find it extremely odd how aggressive JM was and now he's totally backed off. After the outcome of nightfall, he has gone up on my suspect list.

Where did I ever say Zaffy fell off my list??? I said he dropped on my list, but he's still on the scummy side of neutral.

No, I can't get over that Rich cleared someone. When he came on right before nightfall and said he misspoke, it made me hesitate about changing my vote to him. I was extremely close to doing so and never dropped Rich from my suspect list. I just thought the tag-team seeming play by jpap and Zaffy was scummier. Tell me, why should I believe Rich that he just "worded it wrong"? Do you trust Rich? Why do you trust Rich? Rich is a low poster who can easily hide when scum. Also, JM and Rich voted together. Between Rich "clearing" JM and the two of them voting together, I decided that my vote best went to Rich. JM is next when Rich shows wolf.



What exactly is pathetic Kash? I've posted my thoughts and I've tried to help the town. You want me to come up with some crazy-assed theory like JB does? I'm trying to sort out who is scum. What was I trying to pull over? Trust me, I love nothing more than creating a crazy story, causing confusion, and laughing at the town when I'm evil. Since I want the town to win, I will not be spewing any far out scumspiracies which would only serve to confuse.


Huh??? At this point I don't "know" anyone is WW, hell, I don't know anyone's role but my own. I think lynching a WW is a great thing, not sure why you don't want to lynch one. Why are you so defensive of Rich? Do you not find it scummy that he "cleared" JM?



Didn't drop it Rich, in my mind it was still scummy. As explained above, I just thought the dynamic duo seemed scummier.



Please, oh please, tell me where I have defended Zaffy. Did you get that from the BS novel that JB posted? If so, you may want to go back and re-read since he twisted things all around for his little theory. I never thought of you as a skimmer Kash, I always thought you were thorough.



Pray tell, where did I ever try to sway anyone into killing JM? Please, quote where that occurred. That line just absolutely reeks of BS.



OMFG, do you people know how to read??? He never dropped off my list. Dropped closer to neutral, still on the scummy side though, for the freaking last time. No duh they couldn't be communicating, I realized that once jpap's role was revealed. I'm inclined now to believe that they both had similar thoughts and posted them around the same time, coincidentally. If you care to actually go back and read, you'll see that neither one was following, it seemed like teamwork. I've not cleared a freaking person in this game, stop trying to put words in my mouth.




Obviously the two of you could not have been working in tandem since jpap was hunter. That is why you have been lowered on my suspect list and Rich has taken your place.
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In the same post she went from being rather defensive to aggressive challenging people's ability to read what she said and then accusing them of twisting her words.

As nightfall two approached there was A LOT of last minute vote swapping. This is where I think we can figure out the majority of the WW team. The final vote count was:

Fishfriend1 said:
IT IS NIGHT!

Final Vote Count

Rich(0):Lab_Rat

Lab_Rat(4):JB,Rich,LG,dag,Zaffy

Zaffy(5):Kashta, Lady G, Taysius, JM, Pirahna, lab_rat

Pirahna(0):User_name

Kashta(1): Zaffy, User_name.

Lady G(0): User_name

Rocker(1):Chill

User_name(2):Lady G,Rocker
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I was not surprised by Zaffy and LR trading votes. I was surprised that Lady G would go from voting for someone in the running to someone who was not at any risk. Her vote change to UN made no sense to me other then I now believe that she didn't want to be associated with lynching an innocent. Then 6 minutes before nightfall rocker logs on and votes for UN too without giving a reason. My best guess is that he was told to vote for anyone by his teammates except for LR or Zaffy. At this point in the night (6 minutes till nightfall) it was pretty clear that Zaffy was going to get lynched. There really wasn't any need to have another WW voting for him.

If you look at the people who were voting for LR for night two:

Lab_Rat(4):JB,Rich,LG,dag,Zaffy

JB was a man in arms so I think it is extremely safe to assume that LR is not a MIA. Zaffy was NCI. Does anyone else find it odd that LR's top suspect before she switched her vote to Zaffy was Rich? To me it appears that anyone who looked to be a threat to LR is being taken out. Zaffy gets taken out after some maneuvering by the WW and then JB gets taken out by the bite. Rich just happens to be LR's "top suspect" all people who were voting for her. Makes me wonder if I'll be the bite victim tonight for suspecting her.
 
my thoughts for the pack at this point is Kash, JM her defender, Rocker the lurking threat, and there may be another wolf or even two but I'm not sure who - there's a lot of suspects to choose from
 
Chill said:
my thoughts for the pack at this point is Kash, JM her defender, Rocker the lurking threat, and there may be another wolf or even two but I'm not sure who - there's a lot of suspects to choose from
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Just curious why did you waste your vote on night 2?
 
Dag, is that the "mind blowing" theory you've taken all weekend to come up with? I'm less than impressed Dag. Seems like a last ditch effort to save Kash. Is she your teammate? Maybe I am wrong about Rich.

I've been thinking about you, what you've posted, and your lack of participation. You asked the priest to protect Kash from the bite...was that to ensure your bite on JB would go through? He was all over me, why not let him finish off the job? Trying to get him before he could switch his train of thought to you and Kash? Were you intending to frame me? Now it appears you're trying to draw priest protection for yourself, leaving me, LG, and whoever else may be a threat to you fleabags open for a bite.
 
Lab_Rat said:
Dag, is that the "mind blowing" theory you've taken all weekend to come up with? I'm less than impressed Dag. Seems like a last ditch effort to save Kash. Is she your teammate? Maybe I am wrong about Rich.

I've been thinking about you, what you've posted, and your lack of participation. You asked the priest to protect Kash from the bite...was that to ensure your bite on JB would go through? He was all over me, why not let him finish off the job? Trying to get him before he could switch his train of thought to you and Kash? Were you intending to frame me? Now it appears you're trying to draw priest protection for yourself, leaving me, LG, and whoever else may be a threat to you fleabags open for a bite.
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As you said, JB was all over you and now he is dead. Do you find that any bit contradictory to your innocence? As for me trying to draw priest protection for myself I have to completely disagree. I haven't had a whole ton of time for this game and I believe the priest wouldn't use a night's protection on someone who has been inconsistent in their time management for the game.
 
Dagamoth said:
As you said, JB was all over you and now he is dead. Do you find that any bit contradictory to your innocence? As for me trying to draw priest protection for myself I have to completely disagree. I haven't had a whole ton of time for this game and I believe the priest wouldn't use a night's protection on someone who has been inconsistent in their time management for the game.
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Honestly, when I saw he had been hit, I felt like I was being set up. I could totally see you doing something like that to me. I'm surprised you didn't jump on right after nightfall with Kash and JM, hoping to form a train on me with the momentum from nightfall.
 
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