For those who think teachers are "over paid"......

how much should baby sitters be paid?

yes screwing with your head....
Well, for me personally that is a very hard question...I've never paid a babysitter. The only time they are not with me, they are in school or with my Mom. I am not a good person to answer that question.

Stop screwing with my head :nilly:
 
I came up with a few dozen stupid and rude comments to make as a reply for these, but I think I'll stick with the old fashioned but never useless "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" Saying. Words to live by, right there. Seriously, there is no need to be rude, this is supposed to be a "friendly" forum, not a "grill people for their grammar issues" forum. I can go elsewhere for that.
Good for you FF, nice rule to live by for sure!
 
Reframer - are you, by chance, a librarian? ;) I have several friends who are and make exactly that, although they all found library work after other jobs did not pan out for them (such as teaching, or private sector)

I don't think teachers get the worst of it, by far, but it's still worthy of attention and debate. There are many other job categories in the same or worse situation, but teaching does stand out a bit more than other civic jobs in similar circumstances.
 
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I came up with a few dozen stupid and rude comments to make as a reply for these, but I think I'll stick with the old fashioned but never useless "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" Saying. Words to live by, right there. Seriously, there is no need to be rude, this is supposed to be a "friendly" forum, not a "grill people for their grammar issues" forum. I can go elsewhere for that.

Sorry dude, but I stand by my point. You're posting about how great a job your teachers are doing, and clearly showing something else entirely. I didn't make any sort of judgments on you, just pointed out the vast difference between your sentiment, and your expression of it.
 
Really? I think you are reading way too much into this thread. Serious discussion? This is a fish forum.
You insulted a kid, and he called you on it. And he did it very well. Nice try at a comeback. But the kid just owned you.

Once again Rick you said it as well as could be done:

Sorry dude, but I stand by my point. You're posting about how great a job your teachers are doing, and clearly showing something else entirely. I didn't make any sort of judgments on you, just pointed out the vast difference between your sentiment, and your expression of it.

It was really funny!
 
Sad, but in my field people need at least a Masters degree and starting salary is 28,000 with 12 months of work so it is hard for me to feel bad for teachers. But I definitely support teachers and admire their skills and patience.

Thank you! There are plenty of other people out there working more then one job to make ends meet.

I also agree that our schools budgets wouldn't be as high if they cut administrative costs. With the recession everybody has had to tighten their belts why shouldn't our schools. Where I work we used to have 5 people open and now we have 2. My wages haven't gone up but my benefits have either been cut or they raised the out of pocket expenses. Every year in my area you always hear about this district or that going on strike for higher wages, better benefits ect...If it is about the kids, why aren't the kids in school instead of watching the teacher on TV walking a picket line? Where my husband is, he's lucky if he gets a 2% raise, he works minimal 6 days a week for 12 months, has to pay his own health care, put money in his K plan and doesn't get special loans for buying a house.

I may sound like I don't like teachers, but I do. My sons have had some truly amazing teachers, not to say there wasn't a couple of sour apples in the bunch. These amazing teachers liked what they did and it showed in many ways. I agree that I would not want to spend all day with a bunch of kids but when someone chooses this career path that is what they bargained for.
 
Well the teachers here have agreed to a pay cut, and an increase in their medical and pension costs...so it isn't about the money there is more behind the "pickets".
 
My take..... If you want to decrease the cost of schooling, but still have the benefits, i.e. education level..... Then take the government out of the picture. Mike D works for a Charter school. After talking to him about their course plans and education requirements, it is just as good if not better than any public school system. But charter schools just lose all the fat-cat salaries that go along with "administrating" at a higher township/state level. They are held to the same standards of teaching as any public system, they just have less "monitoring" by elected officials. They have figured it out. it is about results on a broad scale. Heck, Mike's Charter school even steps it up and will let students earn college credit while attending high school. I don't know of too many public schools that offer that incentive.

Competition within school townships would prove beneficial. Instead of schools knowing they are getting X number of kids, they have to compete to draw in those kids by providing a better service. Charters schools do the same things or better with less money and I've never heard Mike complain about his salary any more than I do as a procurement guy for a private sector company.
 
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