Mafia #89 Trouble in Kindergarten

[the wizard]

I only had a very short time to make/change my vote from Pir and I voted who I was most cautious of. I had doubts that UN would stay on an obvious UD.

Of the three that voted for UN, whom we now know as an innocent, I dont trust any of you one little bit. As to who is the most suspisious at this time I would have to say Wiz or DD top the list. Not clearing you of course, that would be stupid! LOL

UN had been called out by Ice at least twice up to an hour before nightfall and showed no indication of switching his vote.

Why, with 4 minutes to go would you think he would switch?

It seems you are dancing around the question of what makes it ok to place a singleton vote so close to nightfall. A wasted vote is a wasted vote.

 

[noodles62]

I can understand not wanting to waste your vote on a UD.



What I don't understand, is 4 minutes before nightfall you place a singleton vote. UN had 3 votes before you placed this vote so my question is, Why is it bad to waste your vote on a UD, but it is ok to place a singleton vote just before nightfall?

Was it because the votes were so spread you felt you would blend in?

UN was a done deal, were you comfortable with that and didn't want to be on him when he flipped?

As you noted I changed my vote right before nightfall. You seem to be assuming that I had the vote count all up to the minute and KNEW that UN was a done deal. Did you see a vote count from the teach up to the point? I sure didnt. Nor did I have the time to go back and check the entire thread for any votes that happened in the interim. I have no need to blend in. Do you? Sticking a vote out there and then disappearing for the remainder of the day is a good way to blend in too, wouldnt you say?

 

[the wizard]

As you noted I changed my vote right before nightfall. You seem to be assuming that I had the vote count all up to the minute and KNEW that UN was a done deal. Did you see a vote count from the teach up to the point? I sure didnt. Nor did I have the time to go back and check the entire thread for any votes that happened in the interim. I have no need to blend in. Do you? Sticking a vote out there and then disappearing for the remainder of the day is a good way to blend in too, wouldnt you say?

As I stated last game, it is increasingly more difficult for me to get on during the work day. I have no access until I get home at night. Nightfall had come and gone before I was able to come back to the site after placing my vote.

You on the other hand in this game have stated you were on at work.

 

[noodles62]

As I stated last game, it is increasingly more difficult for me to get on during the work day. I have no access until I get home at night. Nightfall had come and gone before I was able to come back to the site after placing my vote.

You on the other hand in this game have stated you were on at work.

I did not play last game. I have not played in quite some time, in fact. Yes, I periodically can get on at work, but do not have the luxury of digging very deep into the thread. Just time enough to pop in see what's new and off again.

 

[the wizard]

Wasn't your vote a singleton vote too at the time you placed it, Wizard? (Yes.)

Didn't you make it sound somewhat random at that time so you wouldn't UD if you couldn't get back before nightfall? (Yes again.)

So just because 2 others voted with you to lynch an innocent after you posted that vote AND you didn't post again before night.... how are you in any position to question others about singleton votes? For all you knew until after night was over, your vote may have still been a single one too. Everyone here except DD and Ice fall into the same category of placing a single vote so pursing that line of thought doesn't narrow anything down for us...... does it?

In answer to the points and questions you have brought up in this post, yes at the time I placed my vote it was a singleton vote. It was also the second vote placed in the game if I remember correctly so unless I followed Ice's vote no matter where I placed it it would be a singleton vote.

I had a very hectic schedule on Friday and knew I would not see the thread again until after night fall so in the spirit of the kindergarten banter that was going on at the time I placed a random vote to avoid UD.

I think avoiding UD is more helpful to the town.

As for my question about the reason for singleton votes, that is a moot point as I simply wanted to get game related posting going. That is the only way we would be able to find anything to question. I know that most votes were placed with no other reason than to avoid UD as there wasn't anything to make a real vote on.

So, yes, it would be beneficial to the town.

 

[the wizard]

I did not play last game. I have not played in quite some time, in fact. Yes, I periodically can get on at work, but do not have the luxury of digging very deep into the thread. Just time enough to pop in see what's new and off again.

Fair enough, I know that it takes some time to dig.

 

[noodles62]

I wish we know what time nightfall was! I have things to do.

For the moment, I vote to lynch Rich. His inconsistant posts are concerning. He says the 3 on UN are suspisious, then the singleton votes are more suspisious, then votes for Ice for being on UN. Just seems pretty erratic.
I will be back later, but who knows if it will be before nightfall or not?

 

[the wizard]

Also since I have no idea when night fall is as our teacher seems to be passed out.

I vote to lynch Noods


Until I get a satisfactory answer to my question. I don't understand her vote for Wiz and want to know why he looked more suspect then UN who was sitting on a UD even after being called on it.

I'm also willing to vote Rich because I think his reasoning is erratic at best.

Another question is can anyone point to a better reason to vote someone then UN last night? I don't know who was or wasn't around at night fall except for Noods and LG. If you all were here would you have moved to UN or stayed put and why?

If I were not already on UN, and I were here at night fall, I would have switched to UN. Simply because not only was he on a UD, but he was on a UD with a history of UD and was called on it a couple of times. He did post after being called on it so it wasn't as if he couldn't switch his vote.

 

[the wizard]

I don't have enough to comfortably place a vote yet. I sure wish I knew what time night fall was. Hoping to see some more input before I need to vote.

If I had to vote right now I am not sure how it would go. It would probably be either Rich, Noods, or DD.

I would like an answer from Rich about his vote post.

Although she answered my questions, I still have a problem with a singleton vote placed so close to nightfall.

When any one looks at DD, it is a "stretch". I just have a gut feel about her that doesn't sit right. I will be back later to vote.

I am assuming that night fall won't happen before 4 PST.

 

[rich311k]

Maybe it is because my head feels like a lead balloon from allergies, maybe because I am on my first cup of coffee so I am not clear headed yet, I have read this post a few times and think maybe I am missing something.


You stated that late singleton votes throw up more flags then vote the third vote on UN.

You have much more experience playing these games with Ice than I have so maybe you picked up on something I missed but can you explain your thought process for me so I can understand this post?

It seems contradictory in and of itself.

A vote late like Ice's would have been on someone random to me would be more noticeable than his vote on UN was.