More peacock gudgeon eggs~ Questions!

captmicha

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So my male and female spent all day spawning yesterday and laid eggs either yesterday or sometime last night. Fish generally fertilize eggs while they're being laid, right?

It's 9:49 am now. I pulled the pvc pipe with eggs about 30-45 minutes ago and put them into a 2.5 gallon with the pipe vertical with an airstone down it for air flow. It's filtrated and heated and cycled.

I know I pulled the eggs really early but I hope I didn't jump the gun and pull them before they were fertilized. Did I jump the gun? The male was fanning them already and had chased the female out by the time I pulled them. Do you think they've been fertilized already?

I would have liked to have left them longer but there was two problems.
1. The male ate the eggs shortly after they were laid last time, even before any eye spots were showing.
2. A snail was making it's way down the pipe, ready to feast on eggs and there's a lot more snails where that one came from. The tank is heavily planted and I can't remove the majority of the snails.

The 2.5 gallon that is now housing the eggs was my guppy and platy fry grow out tank. I took them out and put them in with my adult peacock gudgeons. It shouldn't stop them from spawning again or laying more eggs, right? I'm feeding the fry Hikari first bites, cyclops, and Kent's Zooplex. And they just got big enough to start accepting small black worms.
 
Sometimes when fish breed for the first few times they may eat the eggs since they may see it as the best way to protect the fry.

My suggestion is get the gudgeons into a 10 gal tank of their own and you can prob leave them in there for a few days. I know I have ~80-100 fry right now and I left them in the tank with my male and 2 females for about 4 days without a problem. Now I have to figure out what to feed them.
 
Sometimes when fish breed for the first few times they may eat the eggs since they may see it as the best way to protect the fry.

My suggestion is get the gudgeons into a 10 gal tank of their own and you can prob leave them in there for a few days. I know I have ~80-100 fry right now and I left them in the tank with my male and 2 females for about 4 days without a problem. Now I have to figure out what to feed them.
 
Sweet!

Yeah, I really need to move my 10 gallon inhabitants to the 3 gallon tank and the peacock gudgeons and the guppy and platy fry to the 10 gallon. My 10 gallon only has one cloud mountain minnow and a salamander.
 
The male gudgeon fertalizes the eggs while they are spawning, so yes, they have been fertalized. It sounds like you have a good setup going for them. The only thing I would worry about it how early they were pulled. A few breeders told me that leavin ghte eggs for at least a day or two was the best hope for survival. They might still hatch and be fine though. The good thing is that they are breeding, and after they do it a little, they seem to keep going, so even if this one doesnt work, you should have a few spawns to work with. Good Luck! If yours hatch we can swap some juvies. :)
 
Sometimes when fish breed for the first few times they may eat the eggs since they may see it as the best way to protect the fry.

My suggestion is get the gudgeons into a 10 gal tank of their own and you can prob leave them in there for a few days. I know I have ~80-100 fry right now and I left them in the tank with my male and 2 females for about 4 days without a problem. Now I have to figure out what to feed them.

Every resource I've read and in my experience with them, the male always eats the eggs. I've yet to see even a stray fry swimming around in the gudgeon, tank, unfortunately. When I get in the mood to raise some gudgeon fry I just pull one of the tubes because there's almost always a male camping them with eggs.
 
It seems like some of the fathers are better than others.

How many peacocks do you have jetajockey?
 
adults, right now, maybe 8 or 10.

I don't know about the some fathers are better than others, pretty much all the accounts of breeding these guys ends up with the dad eating the eggs, there's just a rare few that say that theirs didn't, in passing.
 
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