The Proper Roles of Logic and Emotion in Guiding Human Actions

school buses will be soon mandated to have them. Eventually, all forms of public transportation will laso have them. By the nature of the beast, motorcycles are much safer without them. It doesn't take great thought to understand why.
 
So true...and school buses don't have seatbelts...most are just hopelessly outdated clunkers anyhow. Depressing, really - but I guess if we don't love it we should leave it! ;)

most school buses do have seatbelts, its just that it is not against the law to not wear them. thats not logical at all.
 
school buses will be soon mandated to have them. Eventually, all forms of public transportation will laso have them. By the nature of the beast, motorcycles are much safer without them. It doesn't take great thought to understand why.

I didn't say motorcycles should have seat belts. My point was that cars are safer than motorcycles, therefore if wearing a seat belt in a car is mandatory on the grounds that it's safer then motorcycles should be not be allowed on the roads. Anything else is not logical. Of course logic has nothing to do with most laws, or so it seems to me.
 
I didn't say motorcycles should have seat belts. My point was that cars are safer than motorcycles, therefore if wearing a seat belt in a car is mandatory on the grounds that it's safer then motorcycles should be not be allowed on the roads. Anything else is not logical. Of course logic has nothing to do with most laws, or so it seems to me.

No, it would be illogical if it were safer to NOT wear seatbelts in cars and it was against the law to not do so...comparing that to the overall safety of motorcycles is like comparing apples and oranges.
 
You're missing my point. To fly down the highway at 70 mph is dangerous enough when you're in a vehicle. Doing the same on a motorcycle is much more dangerous. So why is it against the law to fly down the highway in a car without wearing seat belts but legal to do so on a motorcycle? Yes, you're more likely so survive a high-speed crash in a car if you're wearing seat belts, especially if you're in the backseat. Your chances of surviving a similar crash on a motorcycle, however, is slim to none. So why is one legal and the other can be ticketed and fined?
 
Dead on to the topic under discussion. Pappy alot of people don't want facts, they want their own minds to be satisfied, and they "know" that if seatbelts are good in cars that they're always good. Studies that show otherwise are just a case of them fancy book learnin' people trying to get their pictures in the papers. In order to see things more clearly perhaps the mobs that organizations such as The National Coalition for School Bus Safety are made up of need more torches and fewer pitchforks.
 
You're missing my point. To fly down the highway at 70 mph is dangerous enough when you're in a vehicle. Doing the same on a motorcycle is much more dangerous. So why is it against the law to fly down the highway in a car without wearing seat belts but legal to do so on a motorcycle? Yes, you're more likely so survive a high-speed crash in a car if you're wearing seat belts, especially if you're in the backseat. Your chances of surviving a similar crash on a motorcycle, however, is slim to none. So why is one legal and the other can be ticketed and fined?
Agreed. If all behavior is to be regulated according to how it affects society as a whole, then motorcycles should be illegal. Nobody "needs" one and the cost to society far outweighs the benefit to society.
 
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