Mafia 94: When Gingers Attack; the play

[Lady G]

Alright well it got quiet fast... Lets see if I can get some opinions going.

Removing Kash and 2H from the votes last night you are left with 5 people (Jpap, Pir, AAF, myself and DD) all on Kash and 2 people (LG and Rich) on Pir. The number of townies is 5 while the number of scum is 2... Coincidence? So LG and Rich, why didn't you move over to Kash? Didn't you feel that her last post was scummy?

Alright now the remaining players:

Razz- Obvoiusly I know my role
DD- She was the last one to jump over to Kash... While I'm glad she did, the kill vote (Pappy please check my math ) was already posted.
AAF- I'm not sure I can see him as scum quite yet. Yes some of the things he said were not very pro town but he is new... What I do find interesting is how he seems to pick up on something and then as soon as anyone disagrees or questions it he drops the whole idea.
Jpap- Honestly being the kill vote on Wiz, I can't see him as anything but a townie.
LG- I have suspected her from early on but with 2H, I kind of dropped it. However, 2H has been wrong before, and she left her vote on Pir tonight which makes me go "Hmmm"
Rich- He hasn't sparked too much interest over the game but 2H did want to see either him or Wiz lynched and he was right about Wiz... Also, he left his vote on Pir.
Pir- Not too sure... Yes he voted for Kash but it's not like he could do a whole lot more. If he voted for a random person it would have caused a stir.

So that's where my thoughts lie... Anything I've missed? Anyone want to talk about the 5 on Kash and 2 on Pir with 5 townies and 2 gingers?

I can only speak for myself, I really wasn't sure what to make of Kash this time around..IMO she was playing strange from the get go and with it saying she was a Ginger, I am assuming she was the turn. When she voted Pir, yes I thought the post was off, but at the same time if she was going to be gone for real..I could see why she would do it. Things were just to odd for me to switch, since nothing was happening and no one was actually talking all day I wasn't sure what to think..I didn't like how everyone seemed to just jump to Kash that normally isn't a good sign unless there has been a investigation or some big thing happen.

 

[rich311k]

I said before nightfall why I voted Pir, same reasons still apply. Kash was a done deal from this morning. The scum wanted us to go that way. No one looks at any one else, Chuck lives to kill another day.

 

[Lady G]

I said before nightfall why I voted Pir, same reasons still apply. Kash was a done deal from this morning. The scum wanted us to go that way. No one looks at any one else, Chuck lives to kill another day.

I agree they wanted everyone to vote for Kash, for them to just let another of their own just go down like that..there was a reason for it. The thing I don't get though, is the hit on 2H (yes, he was a threat)...but, wouldn't it of been better to leave him in, it would of been so easy to come on and say "Oh, they planned this and 2H being the first on her must be Chuck" or something like that? They knew what they were doing and what they did was cause even more confusion.

 

[Lady G]

thank G, and that is what I am doing.... the problem I am having is the push that seems to be going on in whether Kash or Pir would be selected to be turned.... or at least I saw some discussion on that. I am not willling to say either one is scummy at this point. Well, I could say that Kash is scummy, she would have been turned, she's an awesome player. But the problem with it is Kash's game is very different every game.... which is what makes her such a good player. Chill had voted for both of them, changing from Pir to Kash on day 1 so there is nothing learned from that. I do lean her on a scummy scale.... that said, I am wondering... there is one role for the townies left... initially, I wanted to vote you or 2H but I am second guessing because of that role. I know it's late to do it but I have to follow my instincts...

I retract my vote to genetically test G and vote to genetically test Kash

Just curious Doll, what one role is left for us?

 

[RazzleFish]

I said before nightfall why I voted Pir, same reasons still apply. Kash was a done deal from this morning. The scum wanted us to go that way. No one looks at any one else, Chuck lives to kill another day.

I agree they wanted everyone to vote for Kash, for them to just let another of their own just go down like that..there was a reason for it. The thing I don't get though, is the hit on 2H (yes, he was a threat)...but, wouldn't it of been better to leave him in, it would of been so easy to come on and say "Oh, they planned this and 2H being the first on her must be Chuck" or something like that? They knew what they were doing and what they did was cause even more confusion.

I see what you're saying... My thoughts now could be that for some reason Kash had to leave the game and instead of UD, she voted and then she was lynched likely to help clear the other gingers. I could see that happening but then I think that what if Kash just UD, then they could lynch an innocent in her place and still get their hit. So two innocents and it only cost them one ginger. Unless the only other person being looked at was also scum? So could Pir also be scum?

Just curious Doll, what one role is left for us?

I saw this too and I meant to ask after night but when we got a ginger I forgot all about it so I'm glad you caught it G.

 

[Lady G]

I see what you're saying... My thoughts now could be that for some reason Kash had to leave the game and instead of UD, she voted and then she was lynched likely to help clear the other gingers. I could see that happening but then I think that what if Kash just UD, then they could lynch an innocent in her place and still get their hit. So two innocents and it only cost them one ginger. Unless the only other person being looked at was also scum? So could Pir also be scum?

I saw this too and I meant to ask after night but when we got a ginger I forgot all about it so I'm glad you caught it G.

Well, yeah I could see that possible..I don't think even if it would help them she would just UD though, she knows how everyone feels about UD's. All I know is that definitely looked set up for what ever reason they had, it's just to out of character for her to just give up..so there HAD to be something behind it, especially after just loosing one.

 

[Dangerdoll]

Just curious Doll, what one role is left for us?

UGH!! I was thinking we still had the investigator, I forgot all about Chill being the Investigator.....

funny thing is, the reason I changed my vote to Kash was because I thought G was possibly the investigator.... good thing I had that brain fart, huh

 

[Dangerdoll]

ok, if I am not mistaken, Chill had an investigation night one. Then night 1, he voted Kash and then changed his vote to Pir. Could this have been his way to let us know both were scummy?

 

[Dangerdoll]

I'm sure of two things Pap.
Wiz is scum and I'm the next hit.
G is likely innocent - as the scum at the moment have no way to save Wiz except killing G. If she was scum I expect someone else would be on the block with Wiz.

Sorry G, I totally missed this post..... I am really really sorry

 

[Lady G]

Going back to restart the day, 2H votes Kash first Obviously he was innocent. He did come back and post about how Kash didn't mention Wiz or comment on anything he said as his reason...

I vote to genetically test Kashta

First off, thanks for the help yesterday Chill. I fully believe without your input this game was lost.

I won't have a lot of time to play today, and nightfall is tonight. I also don't expect to be around tonight. Maybe I'll be able to get on before nightfall, but no promises. I will try my best to get on to change my vote to support the town if needed.

I will also do my best during the day today to make a weak case on Kash. Truth be told at this point given enough time I could make a weak case on all remaining players.

Then Pap votes her..he didn't go into detail here, but he had mentioned her a few times.

I agree, likely Chill investigated someone who was dead in that case. I keep going back to a team of Kash, DD and either Rich or Razz...

I vote to genetically test Kash

Need to get a vote in soon.

Next up was Pir...

I vote to genetically test Kash

His reason...because she attacked Chill early on, the thing is she had to be the turn, so she would of been innocent early on.

I think kash's attack of chill early on is a good indicator.
She did vote chill in that weird way.

I'll try to go more in-depth later

He never did come back with a "more in depth" reason, could this be the start of the team mates? No votes were on him at this time.