Mafia 95 - "Mayor's Mansion" (The Play)

[jbradt]

LG, I still haven't seen a response to the question I asked before... Other than your interpretation of MC's actions, what evidence do you have to go so hard at DD? Why do you think that MC would have investigated her? What arguments do you have for your other suspects?

 

[jpappy789]

Nice...thank you

Kinda funny how no ones posts make since once you start in on them isn't it?


You take people words and make it look like they don't know what they are talking about, when they try to answer..you dig into them more forcing them to try and reword and make their point, going at them over and over until they just give up.
I love how you and Labby keep justifying yourself when innocents are lynched by (they made them self look evil) btw

You can post these blanket statements all you want LG but so far you haven't put any forward any proof I twisted what MC said. His theories and my criticism are all out there in writing.

I love how you keep dismissing your vote on Lab when it would make no sense to think she is evil with MC if you also thought MC was the detective btw

Still waiting for those other posts of Lab's that stuck out to you as well.

 

[jpappy789]

Here you name people who voted MC (where you also voted)

Anyone with votes on MC is suspect. I point to Pap, Zaf, AAF, DD (not on MC, but scummy) and a 5th member. (Wiz?)

I'm done for the night guys, good luck town.

(In the event I don't make it to nightfall wednesday) I vote to lynch DD

Now you're naming people who voted for or is currently voting for DD (where you also voted)

So? I'm not saying that everyone who votes DD is scum. I'm just saying that it makes sense for them to vote her.

JB I have no idea, those 3 are just the scummiest. I can't call a gut feeling on Zaffy and Pap suspicion anymore, I never know what to think of them anyways.

Excuse me while I go laugh at how utterly ridiculous that is...:lol:

 

[Lady G]

LG, I still haven't seen a response to the question I asked before... Other than your interpretation of MC's actions, what evidence do you have to go so hard at DD? Why do you think that MC would have investigated her? What arguments do you have for your other suspects?

JB, you know as well as I there is no post from Doll that makes you go "OMG...she is mafia", you are going to have a very hard time when she is mafia doing that. I can only say it is there as a gut feeling. Why would he invest her...seriously?? Because she is Doll and she is good would be my guess, are you saying she would not be a good invest choice?
As for my other suspects, aside from my posts already, they will have to wait for more for you.

 

[Lady G]

You can post these blanket statements all you want LG but so far you haven't put any forward any proof I twisted what MC said. His theories and my criticism are all out there in writing.

I love how you keep dismissing your vote on Lab when it would make no sense to think she is evil with MC if you also thought MC was the detective btw

Still waiting for those other posts of Lab's that stuck out to you as well.

Duh, if you read my responses to you instead of trying to discredit every post as you sis with MC, you would see what I said

 

[Zaffy]

Here are posts by MC, UN, and me starting about an hour before nightfall.

Go ahead lynch me, I am sure all of you will regret lynching me or voting for me. I was just trying to build my own case against someone. I was trying to stir up conversation to pull out some info. I have told you all what my logic was i even modified my thinking because of people saying my logic was illogical, which I agree with now.

@ username, why change your vote back to me all of a sudden?

Possibly a hint at being a PR, nobody really paid any attention though.

@ user_name are you going to make it official or did you forget who you voted? Suspicious all of a sudden? Go ahead and lynch me when I turn up innocent to townies will have a better idea of who you scum are...

In a quote directed at UN, MC says the town will have a better idea of who YOU scum are. So at least an hour before nightfall he's targeting UN.

The only reason you are voting me is because I voted right after night...seems like a weak excuse...lik I said go ahead. I have pretty much exhausted myself explaining my logic and even considering my logic to not be really logical.

A response to UN about his vote.

Wow, not much posting in the final hour, the mafia team must be content with their vote???

We had a tie in night 1. There's no tie right now, I'm voting for scum. Do you want me to move my vote?

This was a reply to LG but MC quoted it below.

You are voting for me because of others being suspicious of my logic...I am here to tell you if you are innocent you will be sorry....not like it matters though at this point.

Comment to me.

Dude go back and read, I was suspicious of chill quite a few posts stating why, I also gave a reason for my vote when I changed. You on the other hand did not.

Going back with UN.

These two post solidify my vote on you MC. You have become active only when you're up for the lynch, not to mention the fact that you're trying to take advantage of a "wishy-washy" voter like myself by posting this. I understand you're strategy here, and I'm not falling for it. My vote will stay on you.

UN going back to MC

both of which have been explained to you. I DO get the suspicion from switching votes so quickly, but day 1 and trying to post as I caught up, rather than post once I've read everything, screwed up some of those posts.

Well, it looks like the town is going to be hurting, sorry townies for my poor play, I guess that's why I haven't played in such a long time...Hope you all get some mafia before it is all over.

Basically a role claim with 1 minute until nightfall

Mafia...

Claim against UN, as night falls.


What bothers me, is if he investigated DD, or Jpap. Why didn't he even mention their names a single time after he starts dropping hints of his role.

I understand that people can't believe he'd invest UN, I find it crazy too. But I can't pretend that I know what MC was thinking when he sent in his PM. Perhaps it was just a hunch or gut call, I looked back and couldn't find anything that would have made me invest UN. He is calling out UN and only UN for an hour straight before night, and his dying words so clearly call UN scum. That is cold hard evidence against a scumbag, everything else is conjecture and what-ifs?

 

[the wizard]

Where would you rank your ability? If Innocent certainly more valauble then the two you tried to save on Day1? I know you said you didn't have your usual sharpness but I'm seeing a lot of excuses here. At the moment you're givng me the most concen.

Really? Chill this is a very thin attempt at best. One time, and I repeat one time I stated I didn't have my SHARP WIT not sharpness. and that was yesterday morning because I was running behind and posted before coffee.

I am liking you for scum the more you post.

 

[jbradt]

Here are posts by MC, UN, and me starting about an hour before nightfall.



Possibly a hint at being a PR, nobody really paid any attention though.




In a quote directed at UN, MC says the town will have a better idea of who YOU scum are. So at least an hour before nightfall he's targeting UN.



A response to UN about his vote.





This was a reply to LG but MC quoted it below.



Comment to me.



Going back with UN.



UN going back to MC





Basically a role claim with 1 minute until nightfall



Claim against UN, as night falls.


What bothers me, is if he investigated DD, or Jpap. Why didn't he even mention their names a single time after he starts dropping hints of his role.

I understand that people can't believe he'd invest UN, I find it crazy too. But I can't pretend that I know what MC was thinking when he sent in his PM. Perhaps it was just a hunch or gut call, I looked back and couldn't find anything that would have made me invest UN. He is calling out UN and only UN for an hour straight before night, and his dying words so clearly call UN scum. That is cold hard evidence against a scumbag, everything else is conjecture and what-ifs?

I think that you're missing the point that at least I am trying to make. There are logical reasons to believe MC dropped at least 3 hints as to his invest. We could probably find more "what if's" by looking back knowing what we know now. So take that for wrote, what OTHER evidence do you have? Who else are you looking at?

 

[Lady G]

As for the case on MC...yeah, I can see what others are seeing but I'm not so sure it shows him as scum at this point. I have seen him do the same things as innocent, and I really can't remember how he played as scum tbh. Personally, I am not ready to vote him.

Wizard, I really can see voting yet something is bugging me about the quick jump (or what seems like a jump) on to him.

Chill, again I can see what others think they are seeing, but I'm not sure I "feel" it at this point.

Doll...not seeing it.

The one who has me most concerned right now would be Labby. It hasn't been anything big..but a few posts really stuck out when I read them, especially the one she questioned MC for his vote on her. The wording just made me think "or you could of told him to throw a vote on you just in case".

For now,,,I VOTE TO LYNCH LABBY

So Pap, as you can see..I wasn't for any of the top three that were in the running. At the time of my vote for Labby Yes I said that, her and her "theory" of how he chose her didn't sit right with me and looked like a evil Labby...adding MC in there, was just a way to make it look like I didn't see that he "may" be detective. Maybe it was not the best way to go about it, but it is what I did.

Actually this entire post makes me think we've got Chill, MC, and LG on the scum team.

Well, I know of at least TWO of em you got wrong

 

[the wizard]

Ok, I have very little time right now and I am going to use it to explain my thoughts. I may or may not have time later to go and pull posts but right now I am using what time I have to say what I see.....

I do believe MC investigated Doll, MC is old school mafia and hasn't played in quite a while...in the older games it was not unusual in any way for the detective to jump out of the box right after nightfall and vote who they found to be mafia. Then try and build a case on that person. Someone questioned me about her playing more this game (or something on those lines) that is not what I said or meant, I said when she is innocent she is more spuratic meaning she gets frazzled more easily and mixes her words up more making it easier for a "case" to be built on her. When she is mafia she seems to be more calm in her responses they are more thought out. I see that in this game.
Yes, I questioned MC..of course I did, it would of been stupid not too, I didn't know his role and yes he was making posts that drew attention to him, although with people pounding in his head that he was being illogical I'm sure he was frustrated..to the point of just giving up the fight. I didn't want anyone to pick up on the fact I thought he was detective, and hoped others saw that (obviously) they didn't (well at least the innocents didn't) and I believe the scum tried the hardest to get him lynched so they could get 2, fortunately the DR. made the right choice last night (THANK YOU DOC).
My vote to Labby..yes it stood out and I knew it would, but I was NOT going to vote MC, and even though I could see thoughts behind Wizard and Chill, I didn't feel it for either of them..I wasn't going to vote there either. Was I afraid to be the kill vote, or tie vote, some have asked, I sure didn't want to be in that spot NO of course not because I didn't think any were the scummiest. Did I not want to lynch a "team mate" some have asked...nope I sure didn't the town needs all the innocents we can keep.
Now, Pap and obviously Labby have a HUGE problem with my vote to Lab and my vote to Doll...why is that exactly? Both were very quick to jump on me for my vote to Doll after nightfall, neither could or acted like they could fathom the thought that he had investigated Doll...why is that such a hard thing to put your head around?
At this point I have Doll, Labby, Pap...possibly Zaff as my tops.
Yes, of course I can see the case for UN but I really think he made that post out of frustration. I don't think it is a case of either UN or Doll is mafia they both very well may be, but he could of only had one invest and even though it was brought up about the "something tells me" Pap is innocent, I really do not see any other reason he would of jumped right in with a vote to Doll if he hadn't investigated her...he had to of known that move would draw alot of attention to him, he's not stupid and I'm sure he thought he would be able to convince others before nightfall, or at least get others to look more at her, but instead he was attacked and attacked pretty hard and non stop by others, he had to go on the defense and that never turns out good for anyone. So IMO the ones saying he did it to himself really need to go back and see what really went on.
My vote stays and unless something more convensing comes up it will.

Such an un LG like post it isn't funny. You may not have the time later to pull posts, but you have time now. Yet there are no posts. You quote some things as "some have said" when I was the only one that said it. Not like you at all G. This post convinces me that you are in the scumden when not on the game thread. You can deny it all you want but until your role is revealed I won't believe you.

Because of that I am more convinced DD is innocent because of your push to look at her right after night fall.