Mafia 96 Who Are You? Game Thread

http://www.aquariacentral.com/forum...-Game-Thread&p=2708557&viewfull=1#post2708557

simple, really... i was asked to choose which way i was leaning on a player i wasn't necessarily leaning either way with. unfortunately for you, i'm not willing to cause more confusion by quoting you thereby eliminating what i actually said in my response. good tactic, though. as well, i must say your list of suspects has little to no scum tells what-so-ever as of right now, so i'm curious as to how you come up with your list. maybe through communication with your scummates?

http://www.aquariacentral.com/forum...-Game-Thread&p=2708563&viewfull=1#post2708563

i have a thought on that... we're going to have to eliminate one of them at a time. see my thoughts here... http://www.aquariacentral.com/forum...-Game-Thread&p=2708527&viewfull=1#post2708527

http://www.aquariacentral.com/forum...-Game-Thread&p=2708584&viewfull=1#post2708584

as to your insinuation on me being willing to cast a theoretical vote i never did cast on a player that happened to be innocent... i see no reason why you two couldn't be on the same side and feeling each other out or calling each other out... i also see no reason you two couldn't be on opposite teams doing the same thing. as of right now neither team can know more than 30% of the field, so the rest are unknowns, period. that means that even communicating players still have at least 7 unknowns. so, if you can draw a conclusion based on that, you're a much better man than i. i'm limited to scum tells, personally and as of right now, your list seems to be another one for you.

http://www.aquariacentral.com/forum...-Game-Thread&p=2708591&viewfull=1#post2708591

fair enough.
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dundadundun said:
i have reason to believe the shots would be calculated and coordinated as per the rules and the overall knowledge, intelligence and experience level of the players left in the game.

here's my reason...

this puts the hitmen/policemen in a sniper role. ie; one shot, one kill. nothing to be wasted.

this also tells me that after 3 nightfalls with one innocent and one goony down, there can only be 3 communicating members of each team as of yet since obviously kash and dag had to be investigated and found to be of opposite teams.

this tells me that according to these next statements that lab rat is working for the scum team.



i vote to lynch lab_rat.
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Psst...Dun...your scumminess is showing!

Nothing says that whoever is shot was investigated first. The shot on Kash may have been a gamble that a team had to take. Maybe she was acting scummy enough to warrant a shot from a policeman without being investigated. My point was there was no way to know which team it came from, especially from those of you who were claiming Ice as scum. There was no way for JB to jump to his conclusion unless he knew the remaining hitman didn't take the shot. Now the scum team must have thought Dag had a townie PR, that's the only explanation I can think of for shooting him.

Lady G said:
Obviously, you were right with Kash...duh, a big problem with this theory though Ice...if I were able to invest, YOU would be my first, not Kash!
Last night doesn't change my thoughts on you one bit...you are blowing lots of smoke, and I think your full of it.
I vote to lynch Ice
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Exactly. I think you investigated Ice first, found him innocent, then investigated Kash, found her scum. Then you and Kash worked to try to get Ice lynched as you knew he was a big threat to your team. You were almost successful, until your scumbuddy Kash was taken out.

Lady G said:
Lab, no it didn't state who took the shot...but when it comes to Kash do you think the mafia would of "blindly shot" at her. I would think she is one that would of been investigated do you not?
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No, I don't think the mafia would have blindly shot at her. I don't think they would have shot at her at all, she was acting scummy. I believe it was a policeman who shot her.

Lady G said:
Hmmm, this is interesting...you both seem to be insinuating that the scum actually hit Kash, why is that?
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Hmmm, this is interesting...you seem to be twisting my words all over the place. I never insinuated such a thing. I did insinuate (or more than insinuate, call out) JB for being a hitman. He would know he hadn't shot Kash, their other hitman was dead, so therefore, Kash was shot by a policeman. Why are you twisting my words LG?
 
Lab_Rat said:
Nothing says that whoever is shot was investigated first. The shot on Kash may have been a gamble that a team had to take. Maybe she was acting scummy enough to warrant a shot from a policeman without being investigated. My point was there was no way to know which team it came from, especially from those of you who were claiming Ice as scum. There was no way for JB to jump to his conclusion unless he knew the remaining hitman didn't take the shot. Now the scum team must have thought Dag had a townie PR, that's the only explanation I can think of for shooting him.
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there's simply no reason to take a chance when you've only got one shot per policeman/hitman. the chances of investigating someone on your own team every night for 3 consecutive nights is slim to none. these were not calculated risks, these were well placed and thought out shots, and you know it. why are defending ice again? why are you and ice trying to stir up confusion? what is there to gain from it if you're not scum? there will be one more hit if the remaining policeman isn't hit soon. when that hit hits on scum, we'll see.
Lab_Rat said:
Dun, what's up with the links? Quotes are much better and you can quote inside the quotes if that is what you want to have. Clicking back and forth is a pita.
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sorry... it was easier for me that way and not lose my train of thought. if you'd like, i'll re-write the whole thing over with quotes. however, i do think it's easier than when i have to search back several pages to quote something for an answer to someones inquiry, so i didn't see it as a major issue. especially with skimming seemingly so frowned upon in the games.
 
Sorry for the delay everyone, let's just say it was an eventful weekend and I'm in no mindset to do any digging right now. That being said I don't think I've felt this behind in a game EVER.

Just a couple of quick thoughts:

I think it is more likely that those that have been shot so far were investigated previously. I don't think teams are going to risk taking shots in the dark, but it is still a possibility. Anyways, my guess is that with UN gone and Dag being hit that the scum need to get the townie PRs lynched. That means we need to be careful of any coordinated attempts to get someone lynched. Hopefully the innocents have their last hit at their disposal at this point but that would depend on investigations. Again, I suppose nothing says that a team could not have taken a gamble but the shots are a precious tool. Because of that I do agree that scum (if they took the shot) must have thought Dag was a PR. Thankfully that was not the case but I do think that could give us some insight on who took the shot.

I should have more actual posts to comment on tomorrow.
 
dundadundun said:
there's simply no reason to take a chance when you've only got one shot per policeman/hitman. the chances of investigating someone on your own team every night for 3 consecutive nights is slim to none. these were not calculated risks, these were well placed and thought out shots, and you know it. why are defending ice again? why are you and ice trying to stir up confusion? what is there to gain from it if you're not scum? there will be one more hit if the remaining policeman isn't hit soon. when that hit hits on scum, we'll see.

sorry... it was easier for me that way and not lose my train of thought. if you'd like, i'll re-write the whole thing over with quotes. however, i do think it's easier than when i have to search back several pages to quote something for an answer to someones inquiry, so i didn't see it as a major issue. especially with skimming seemingly so frowned upon in the games.
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I disagree that there were no reasons to not chance a well thought out yet not 100% certain shot. I am not defending Ice, nor am I trying to stir up confusion. I happen to agree with Ice and I am leaning him innocent. I think the scum team is trying to eliminate him. They almost succeeded. How is the remaining policeman in any danger? The scum have lost 1 shot and used the other on Dag (still don't understand that one but ok). The only shot remaining is from the last policeman by my calculations. The only way the last policeman can be eliminated now is if the scum manages to get them lynched.

Don't worry about re-writing it all over, just in the future know its easier for people to read quotes. Skimming is not good, but it happens plenty in these games. It will likely happen moreso if people have to click a link to see what you were referring to.
 
Lab_Rat said:
How is the remaining policeman in any danger?
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i dunno. do tell. i'd think whomever that may be has the same chances as anyone else in the town.
 
dundadundun said:
i dunno. do tell. i'd think whomever that may be has the same chances as anyone else in the town.
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You're the one who said the policeman was in danger of being hit. Please tell me how they are in that danger. You are the one who said it, why are you asking me to explain what you said?
 
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