Like I said, the fact that you brought up DD talking about the games as an actual reason for the vote is what bothered me. Most people would just put in a random vote to make sure they had one before nightfall. That's why it bothered me.
Mafia #98: The Grinch Returns -- The Play
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Like I said, the fact that you brought up DD talking about the games as an actual reason for the vote is what bothered me. Most people would just put in a random vote to make sure they had one before nightfall. That's why it bothered me.
Well, guess I'm not "most people" and I pretty much always add a reason with my vote, really can only think of MAYBE a handful of times in all the games I've played that I didn't add a reason.
Woot woot! Thank you for the present, evils, bet you're all very upset with yourselves now. But don't feel too bad, it cheered most of us up 
Yes, you made the case after voting UN, but why not vote me since you had a case (however bad) against me, rather then UN for having an OMGUS vote? What I do find a little funny is how he was aiming to put the spotlight on me, but ended up pointing it the wrong way.
Okay, I have something to say in relation to Rich being unlynchable. He pretty much is. Last game, when he was evil, I couldn't find a single reason to vote him all game long. whenever I can invest someone, I always check him in the first few days of the game. He's probably one of the best at not being readable. I do not fully understand why 2H was lynched over something like that, it was day one and his reason was better then mine (because UN needed a vote). That's just my opinion on it.
Now, I have some quick re-readinging to do before I start with large posts. I'm also in school, so I may not get another post out for a few hours.
Yes, you made the case after voting UN, but why not vote me since you had a case (however bad) against me, rather then UN for having an OMGUS vote? What I do find a little funny is how he was aiming to put the spotlight on me, but ended up pointing it the wrong way.
Okay, I have something to say in relation to Rich being unlynchable. He pretty much is. Last game, when he was evil, I couldn't find a single reason to vote him all game long. whenever I can invest someone, I always check him in the first few days of the game. He's probably one of the best at not being readable. I do not fully understand why 2H was lynched over something like that, it was day one and his reason was better then mine (because UN needed a vote). That's just my opinion on it.
Now, I have some quick re-readinging to do before I start with large posts. I'm also in school, so I may not get another post out for a few hours.
I just saw LG's vote as an avoid UD because she was so late vote. I have not seen a reason to read anything into it. I think we would have all found it odd if she had just voted with no explanation whatsoever.
I still am leery of Dun, jumping at FF to see if he will bite is an easy thing to do.
I have to do a little reading and looking to see what all happened at the end there.
I still am leery of Dun, jumping at FF to see if he will bite is an easy thing to do.
I have to do a little reading and looking to see what all happened at the end there.
This is 2Hs vote. Not all that scummy a reason to vote, considering that it was day 1 and an early vote. I saw a decent number of far worse reasons to vote (OMGUS, Just cause, ext) but no one else was targeted.
DD votes for a fluff reason. It's a wonder that people went after Dun when they had this to argue about.
Then Ice votes FOR THE SAME REASON. And still no one noticed? It was quite some time after the original vote by DD, so perhaps it was only noticed if you're reading back.
Now we have Pappy. He votes 2H for the same reason as DD and Ice. That reason is starting to get a little old...
And now Wizard. For the same reason. At this point I would have called a BS on the reason, it wasn't a good one and I think that DD (being scum) pulled it up in the hopes of getting a train. Perhaps Ice then pulled it back up later (when they felt it was safe to do so). Failed again, so Pappy did it too.
I vote to lynch 2H[/QUOTE]
Now, look a the votes. DD goes first, then Ice ties it up with Dun again, then later Wiz ties it with Dun again. Seems to me like they either really wanted 2H out or 2 of them are evil. IMHO, Ice and Wiz are more likely evil, with Dun as the third CE. That would explain why Wiz and Ice wanted Dun not to get lynched. They and DD all tied it up with votes on Dun. The reason Pappy isn't on my evil list is because Pappy voted before Rich, so it would have kept the tie, thus not needing a vote on 2H to save Dun. Naturally, Dun would save himself, so as long as there was a tie he was safe. While this is a somewhat unlikely story, it could be explained if Dun is, say, the Grinch. Needless to say, I think that all three of them are the remaining evils.
On that note, I vote to lynch Dun.
Isn't being "busy'' a good way to fly under the radar? If this had been brought up later in the game it might have been a valid point, but since it was in D1 is it not valid. Seems a bit of a double standard IMO. In reality FF is the only one who knows if he is truly busy are not, the rest of us can just speculate that he either is or is not.
This stuck out to me because you jump on Dun for IMPLYING FF isn't busy, do you in fact know that he is, thus making a possibly false implication worthy of a vote?
This post stuck out to me because Rich seemed to know right off the bat who the hit was, while seemingly the rest of the town was in confusion about if it was a frosty or Grinch hit.
The timing and content of these posts stuck out to me, they are possibly coincidental notable none the less.
Wiz can you explain what was so interesting to you about this? I see no explanation and didn't see it as very interesting myself.
Now this I found a bit more interesting. JPap feeling the need to defend himself because Wiz found his vote interesting.
This is also interesting. UN is on your list but you're not sure why?
Wiz, UN voted to lynch Dun and then two minutes later you voted to tie up the vote with 2H. Do you find that interesting?
Yeah, my vote on UN was mostly random and some general annoyance regarding JV play styles.
1. 2H's lynch vote for someone unlynchable thing was garbage. I agreed with the comments already posted but didn't comment further because it was already addressed. What hadn't been said yet (unless I missed it) was suggesting we lynch a player like Rich for a nonsense reason when it was equally possible Rich wasn't evil.... in which case that would hurt the town and greatly help the scum by eliminating the need to kill him themselves and possibly them not needing to invest him.
2. I read the stuff about Dun too and can see the concern about him contradicting himself by using one reason to vote (UN) which also applied to someone he didn't vote (FF) for the same reason. That's usually a good scum tell. Dun's vote just struck me as sincere more than sneaky. I felt the reason Dun gave for voting UN was probably honest. Didn't think he realized at the time of his vote that his reason for UN also applied to FF. Not great logic, of course, but it seemed truthful.... possibly because it was contradictory, which seemed true rather than contrived.
I didn't vote Rich or 2H. While I thought their choices were ill-advised, that doesn't always mean evil. In the end, I decided to break the tie to see if I could shake things up a little with just about 2 hours before nightfall. That seemed the best idea to me since others didn't seem to want to stick their necks out and risk drawing attention.
That put my pick between UN, Dun, and 2H. I settled on UN mainly because he OMGUSSed his vote on FF. JV players KNOW everyone looks at OMGUS votes as a possible scumtell... but they tend to do it anyway - and even call attention to it. Basically, I voted UN for being petty (no personal offense intended, UN) and unhelpful.... possibly being anti-game. He's the one who told us it was OMGUSSy but seemed to expect that to be acceptable simply because he mentioned the OMGUS word before anyone else did. Overall, that gave the impression he picked an easy place to vote without expecting to get looked at for it... instead of actually trying to help us.
