Mafia #98: The Grinch Returns -- The Play

[Ballyhoo]

Semantics. Obviously we can't know for sure but all signs point to it being a scum hit and I thought it was made fairly certain that was the case. I wasn't confused in the slightest and I got no indication that most others felt any differently about it being a scum hit.

And those last posts you pulled are posts that had nothing to do with the hit itself. Dun was asking if Frosty only has one hit, to which I responded. Lab has yet to clarified but she is running almost the EXACT same setup I ran, I think, just last year. As I said Frosty should have just one hit as it is a vigilante-like role.

Do you honestly think Frosty took that shot?

Bally, I read all of the posts you pulled that you said everyone was confused who made the hit and I just don't read it that way. You highlighted the word assume, but, in context of the spoken word the way they were talking I would take assume to me that they were comfortable saying the scum team hit their non communicating elf.

No I do not think Frosty took that shot, What I'm saying is that I had to go back and check the roles and order of events after nightfall then re read the post again. Frostys hit is before the Grinches in order of events and I had read the hit post before Lab posted GAME ON so I wasn't sure what it was until after that. Perhaps Rich just reads faster than I do and was able to check the order of events before I did. All I was saying is that it is notable and worth keeping an eye on, which I did and I agree you are right that it was the Grinches hit and I was wrong to think other wise.

The point of highlighting the word assume was to show that in this game no one truly knows anything and why I had used the word confused.

 

[the wizard]

Mafia #98: The Grinch Returns

Game Mechanics

1) Each game day everyone in the town has to vote to lynch someone. You vote by saying (in bold)… I vote to lynch so and so.

a. You must vote each day,but you cannot vote for “No One” or for yourself. If you fail to vote, you will die an untimely death.

b. If you decide to switch your vote, state in bold you are doing so and the new vote. (I retract my vote on XXXX, and vote to lynch XXX)

c. Do not put your vote in your signature.

2) Whoever has the most votes gets lynched. If you have two and everyone else has one vote…you get lynched.

a. The priority of night time happenings is:

Town Lynch
Grinch's Hit
Frosty’s Hit
Jack’s Nip
Untimely Deaths
Investigation Results

b. If multiple people have the same number of votes, I will use a coin flip to decide who gets lynched.

c. Investigations will reveal specific roles as given by me to the player.

3) If you do not vote daily, then you will die an embarrassing death. UDs suck, don't do it.

4) Everything stays in the game, no PMing people and setting up deals or alliances, or discussing issues in this game on other sites. The sole exception to this is the authorization by me for special role players to do so.

I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT AUTHORIZED PEOPLE COMMUNICATE VIA AN OFF SITE MESSAGING BOARD LIKE MSN/AIM/ICQ.

5) You can say whatever you want in the game, but you can't 'prove it' with my PM to you.

6) The Grinch and his elves win when they outnumber the Innocents or Santa is killed.

7) The Innocents win if they lynch the Grinch and all his elves.

8) If you have any questions, PM me. If it's important to all I will post it.

9) Once again, no one, unless authorized to do so, are to discuss the game outside of the thread. That's kind of the point. If you are discussing things, then everyone else doesn't get the benefit of your deliberations. Think town hall rather than internet chat room.

10) Do not edit your posts! KEEP AFTER DEATH POSTS TO A MINIMUM!

Roles

The players are residents of the North Pole where there is an evil plot to destroy Santa, his workshop, and Christmas…forever! Santa has used his magic to shield the identities of those around the workshop in order to flush out the scum who wish to ruin the happiest day of the year.

Santa, an Innocent, is on a mission to rid his workshop of the evil elves trying to disrupt the work needed to get ready for Christmas. Santa has one investigation per game night to find the evil infiltrators. Santa is also in communication with his trusty bodyguard, Rudolph. Investigations are required to be sent to me before nightfall occurs. If Santa is investigated by the scum team, he will show up as an innocent townie.

Rudolph, an Innocent, is out to save the day, and help Santa. Rudolph has the ability to protect Santa from the Grinch’s hit or Frosty's snowball. He can do nothing about the Townies lynching their jolly leader. As teammates, the two can communicate outside the thread.

Frosty the Snowman, an Innocent, is a soft-spoken resident of the North Pole. However, he possesses a dangerous snowball that will instantly kill the person it is directed at (it’s a very icy snowball). If Frosty is found by Santa via investigation, he can join the innocent team.

The rest of the innocents are Santa’s elves. Their life’s work is at stake and without Santa they would be stranded without a home. They too are on a mission to get rid of the Grinch and his henchmen and do so by lynching a player every nightfall. Each innocent elf has their own minor role that could help guide them through the game. Only the player will know of their ability.

The Grinch has a heart two sizes too small and is completely rotten to the core. He has hated Christmas for as long as anyone can remember. The Grinch has continuously tried to destroy Santa and the merriness he brings to good little girls and boys. He is in control of evil elves and is currently in communication with all but one of them. The Grinch can attempt to find the lone elf as well as other players’ roles through nightly investigations. The evil elves can hit one townsperson per night. If the Grinch is killed, the team loses their nightly investigations.

Jack Frost, is a mischievous spirit who simply wishes to last the winter. He has the ability to “nip” one person during the course of the game. If he chooses an evil elf, they will turn good. But if an innocent elf is nipped, they will become an evil elf without immediate connection to the Grinch. All non-elf players are immune to the “nip.”


If for any reason you need to leave the game, please PM me, do not post it in the thread. IF YOU POST THAT YOU QUIT YOU DIE AS SOON AS I SEE THE POST. NO EXCEPTIONS. YOUR ROLE WILL BE REVEALED. I don't care if you recant the quit you will still die.

"In the game you will get accused, grilled, made to look like an idiot, and a hundred other things. Remember that it is IN THE GAME. Do not take anything personally or make personal attacks. Anything said out of line will result in removal from the game."

No I do not think Frosty took that shot, What I'm saying is that I had to go back and check the roles and order of events after nightfall then re read the post again. Frostys hit is before the Grinches in order of events and I had read the hit post before Lab posted GAME ON so I wasn't sure what it was until after that. Perhaps Rich just reads faster than I do and was able to check the order of events before I did. All I was saying is that it is notable and worth keeping an eye on, which I did and I agree you are right that it was the Grinches hit and I was wrong to think other wise.

The point of highlighting the word assume was to show that in this game no one truly knows anything and why I had used the word confused.

You went back and read the order of events and Fosty's hit is before the Grinch's hit? Not according to LR.

I think the only confusion over the hit was that you and your team mates were confused that out of all the players in the game, your hit took out the only non communicating team mate you had.

I most likely won't be back before night fall. I don't see anything else to go on so,

I vote to lynch Bally

I will try to check in on my phone if I get the chance today to see if anything else comes up but don't know if I will get the time or not.

 

[the wizard]

No I do not think Frosty took that shot, What I'm saying is that I had to go back and check the roles and order of events after nightfall then re read the post again. Frostys hit is before the Grinches in order of events and I had read the hit post before Lab posted GAME ON so I wasn't sure what it was until after that. Perhaps Rich just reads faster than I do and was able to check the order of events before I did. All I was saying is that it is notable and worth keeping an eye on, which I did and I agree you are right that it was the Grinches hit and I was wrong to think other wise.

The point of highlighting the word assume was to show that in this game no one truly knows anything and why I had used the word confused.

The last point in this post, reads to me as if you are trying to sow the seed of doubt in our minds. We really do know what is posted by the game mod and "evil lurking" can only mean one thing. In the case of reading the write up for the hit, even with out LR saying the scum hit one of their own, to say that they did is a safe assumption.

 

[Ballyhoo]

It was a mistype, I'm distracted trying to get myself ready for work, 2 kids ready for school and feed a toddler breakfast and keep an eye one her

 

[Ballyhoo]

I have to go to work now, I'll post from my phone if I can, will not be able to quote anything though.

*bally leaves quietly whistling The Christmas song*

 

[Fishfriend1]

if anyone believed you, the town would be in big trouble. that's why you'll likely not get my vote for another nightfall, but you've got me convinced now... especially when looking at the timing when you posted you'd be busy for the weekend. one post on the first day, then 24hours later saying you wouldn't be on for the weekend... and you almost completely stuck to that vice one other post. that's way out of the norm for you when you're innocent... especially after being accused. the fact that you voted your accuser is neither here nor there, but you definitely seem coached to me.

Why do you say that? Just because my idea is far fetched doesn't make it incorrect. And from this post I see that you don't take me seriously. Besides the annoyance of it, there is the fact that, because of the way you think, I could get away with bloody murder under the cover of "it's my normal gameplay". I am trying to change said gameplay from "crazy" to "stable". At this point I am actively trying to post less often.

As for stuff being out of the norm for me, well, maybe it is. However, I do have a job, and I do need to work there. I can't use a mac at my work. Thusly, I WILL NOT be posting when working. I didn't really want to join this game to start with, so my posting from before the game even started was going to be limited. TBH, I still don't want to be playing, but will finish this game because I started it.

 

[dirtydawg10]

What I found interesting is that we had a three way tie that recurred with the same three candidates. As it was happening it seemed to me that someone wanted those three tied for some reason. Could I have been reading too much into it? Probably, I had stated my ead was fuzzy and I wasn't thinking too clearly.

Nice of you to pull this out of the middle of a conversation (out of context to be exact). When the answer to your question is in the conversation you pulled it out of. See post 114. I know that you read it or you wouldn't have found this post.

UN voted Dun as I was typing my vote. I had no way of knowing that he was doing so.

Thanks for the explanation. So you think you were reading too much into it. I would have to agree. Not sure scum would benefit from voting like that. They typically benefit from voting one person out. That's why I questioned it. It seemed more to me like you were making a bigger deal out of it as a way to begin pointing fingers.

I did read post 114 originally and wasn't sure what you were trying to say there. I reread it a couple times and see you were planning to vote for the voter or the votee based on your theory above? Correct me if I'm wrong. This doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense either. Did you think the voting was scummy or the "being voted for" was scummy? I'm not liking the logic and it seems to me more like fingerpointing to see who might jump on if you mention some names.

Thanks...I was just trying to show why your theory may have some holes in it.

 

[IceH2O]

Was close enough I could come home for lunch.

I don't like the way Dun had to be prodded to vote for his main suspect. If you are that convinced someone is scum then vote them, it could always be changed later if a better suspect comes up.

I don't see how bally can claim mistype when her whole explanation post was based on the order of hits.

I'm willing to vote either one but for now I vote to lynch Dun

 

[IceH2O]

I have to go to work now, I'll post from my phone if I can, will not be able to quote anything though.

*bally leaves quietly whistling The Christmas song*

is this the song?

[YT]nzXKWKaxt3c[/YT]

 

[rich311k]

I vote to lynch Bally.

I think she was fishing when she pulled and questioned my post about yesterday's nightfall. Her explanations of it have not eased my mind at all.