Mafia #98: The Grinch Returns -- The Play

[Lady G]

LG said he mentioned he wouldn't be around before the game started. it was every post concerning the game since the beginning of the sign up thread. i'm not sure of his reasoning for him saying he wasn't going to be around... especially since he didn't mention it until the game actually was in play. that's not to say he wasn't actually working, but he seems to always find a way anyway IME. yes, it's slim pickins, but only a beginning of my suspicion towards hi this game.

good to know, LG... i have a knack and hoped i wasn't utilizing it unknowingly.

It say's right there in the posts you pulled he wasn't going to be around, because he would be working...yes I was mistaken of the timing he said it.

I'm wondering that too. Can we have a link?

I vote to lynch UN, for the reason that he needs at least one vote day one (j/k) and because I work all day tomorrow and all day sunday (hours = money, sunday = 50¢ more per hour = HELL YEA!) so I may not get on before nightfall. With luck sat and sun will be dead as a doornail and I'll be able to sleep through the day and come on the play later.

So IMO, this would explain his absence...could he of got on sometime in between, I have no idea but I am taking his word for it at this point.

 

[Lady G]

What I found interesting is that we had a three way tie that recurred with the same three candidates. As it was happening it seemed to me that someone wanted those three tied for some reason. Could I have been reading too much into it? Probably, I had stated my ead was fuzzy and I wasn't thinking too clearly.

Nice of you to pull this out of the middle of a conversation (out of context to be exact). When the answer to your question is in the conversation you pulled it out of. See post 114. I know that you read it or you wouldn't have found this post.
UN voted Dun as I was typing my vote. I had no way of knowing that he was doing so.

I'm not sure you were reading to much into it Wizard, I agree with you. Of course I have no idea if it is right, it's hard to try and figure things out on a day one vote but when it is in a 3 way tie, and continues between the same three over and over it does tend to make you wonder.

It was a mistype, I'm distracted trying to get myself ready for work, 2 kids ready for school and feed a toddler breakfast and keep an eye one her

Whew, boy...do I feel your pain there!!

Thanks for the explanation. So you think you were reading too much into it. I would have to agree. Not sure scum would benefit from voting like that. They typically benefit from voting one person out. That's why I questioned it. It seemed more to me like you were making a bigger deal out of it as a way to begin pointing fingers.

I'm not sure they wouldn't benefit from it, the confusion factor sure is a nice "benefit" and also there is always the possibility one of the three has a important role to them.

 

[allaboutfish]

im going to go ahead and vote now. i vote to lynch bally bc she seemed to be trying to cause confusion to distract the town. this is subject to change if something else comes up.

 

[dundadundun]

UN (2) - FF (#22), Dun (#87), Kash (#92)
FF (0) - UN (#58)
Dun (4) - AAF (#62), Dawg (#88), Rich (#97), UN (#115)
Pappy (0) - Rich (#67)
Rich (1) - 2H (#71)
2H (5) - DD (#73), Ice (#89), Pappy (#96), Wiz (#116), Dun (#132)
DD (2) - Bally (#76), LG (#129)
LG (0) - Wiz (#80)

Everyone has voted.

i think we really need to start looking at who voted 2h and why at this point. let's see...

going by the rules, DD being hit would suggest she was the non-communicating elf and i had no choice but to switch my vote to save me own behind last minute. i'm thinking one way or another, someone who voted UN had to know they were voting someone who wasn't communicating scum. ice tied up the votes, wiz tied up the votes, but pappy happened to vote to put 2h in the lead. does this indicate anything? i dunno... but it's worthy of a look in my book.

 

[Lady G]

Going back and bringing the vote counts and how it played out, I know others have "said" what happened, but without actually seeing it...it's hard to know if they are correct.

UN (1) - FF (#22)
FF (1) - UN (#58)
Dun (1) - AAF (#62)
Pappy (1) - Rich (#67)
Rich (1) - 2H (#71)
2H (1) - DD (#73)
DD (1) - Bally (#76)
LG (1) - Wiz (#80)

No votes: Pappy, LG, Ice, Dawg, Dun, Kash
PMs as needed. Nightfall in less than 3 hrs!

5pm, 3 hours before nightfall we have ALL single votes...

UN (2) - FF (#22), Dun (#87)
FF (1) - UN (#58)
Dun (2) - AAF (#62), Dawg (#88)
Pappy (1) - Rich (#67)
Rich (1) - 2H (#71)
2H (2) - DD (#73), Ice (#89)
DD (1) - Bally (#76)
LG (1) - Wiz (#80)
No votes: Pappy, LG, Kash
PMs as needed. Nightfall in less than 2.5 hrs!

Then Dun, Dawg and Ice all vote, and form the three way tie...

UN (3) - FF (#22), Dun (#87), Kash (#92)
FF (1) - UN (#58)
Dun (2) - AAF (#62), Dawg (#88)
Pappy (1) - Rich (#67)
Rich (1) - 2H (#71)
2H (2) - DD (#73), Ice (#89)
DD (1) - Bally (#76)
LG (1) - Wiz (#80)

No votes: Pappy, LG
PMs as needed. Nightfall in 1.5 hrs!

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With an hour and a half left to go, Kash comes in and breaks the tie giving UN the lead.

UN (3) - FF (#22), Dun (#87), Kash (#92)
FF (1) - UN (#58)
Dun (3) - AAF (#62), Dawg (#88), Rich (#97)
Pappy (0) - Rich (#67)
Rich (1) - 2H (#71)
2H (3) - DD (#73), Ice (#89), Pappy (#96)
DD (1) - Bally (#76)
LG (1) - Wiz (#80)
No votes: LG
PMs as needed. Nightfall in less than 1.5 hrs!

Pap votes 2H bringing a tie to 2H and UN, then Rich moves to cause another three way

UN (3) - FF (#22), Dun (#87), Kash (#92)
FF (1) - UN (#58)
Dun (3) - AAF (#62), Dawg (#88), Rich (#97)
Pappy (0) - Rich (#67)
Rich (1) - 2H (#71)
2H (3) - DD (#73), Ice (#89), Pappy (#96)
DD (1) - Bally (#76)
LG (0) - Wiz (#80)

No votes: LG, Wiz

PMs as needed. Nightfall in about 0.5 hrs!

Half our left till nightfall and still a 3 way..

UN (3) - FF (#22), Dun (#87), Kash (#92)
FF (0) - UN (#58)
Dun (4) - AAF (#62), Dawg (#88), Rich (#97), UN (#115)
Pappy (0) - Rich (#67)
Rich (1) - 2H (#71)
2H (4) - DD (#73), Ice (#89), Pappy (#96), Wiz (#116)
DD (1) - Bally (#76)
LG (0) - Wiz (#80)

No votes: LG

PMs as needed. Nightfall in about 11 minutes.

11 minutes left UN, moves his vote tie it up on Dun and 2H and removes himself from the 3way.

UN (2) - FF (#22), Dun (#87), Kash (#92)
FF (0) - UN (#58)
Dun (4) - AAF (#62), Dawg (#88), Rich (#97), UN (#115)
Pappy (0) - Rich (#67)
Rich (1) - 2H (#71)
2H (5) - DD (#73), Ice (#89), Pappy (#96), Wiz (#116), Dun (#132)
DD (2) - Bally (#76), LG (#129)
LG (0) - Wiz (#80)

Everyone has voted.

PMs as needed. Nightfall in about 1 minute.

Dun moves his vote to 2H saving himself and getting 2H lynched.

UN and Dun both moved to save themselves from the look of it, which of course leaves the question why not if innocent let the tie go and take your chance, or did they REALLY think the person they switched to was evil

 

[Lady G]

i think we really need to start looking at who voted 2h and why at this point. let's see...

going by the rules, DD being hit would suggest she was the non-communicating elf and i had no choice but to switch my vote to save me own behind last minute. i'm thinking one way or another, someone who voted UN had to know they were voting someone who wasn't communicating scum. ice tied up the votes, wiz tied up the votes, but pappy happened to vote to put 2h in the lead. does this indicate anything? i dunno... but it's worthy of a look in my book.

Well, YOU voted UN before you "saved" yourself...did YOU know he was non-communicating, also how does anyone know he was "non=communicating"?

 

[Lady G]

Well, YOU voted UN before you "saved" yourself...did YOU know he was non-communicating, also how does anyone know he was "non=communicating"?

I need to clarify my wording there...you said someone voting UN had to of known they were voting non-communicating scum, you say this like you know he is NOT communicating, how exactly do you know that? His role has not been revealed as of right now, so only the evil would actually know if he was communicating with them or not right?

 

[dundadundun]

what does it matter who's innocent in a completely random choice? explain please.

 

[Lady G]

One more question for you Dun....before you moved your vote to 2H, did you feel he was evil or was it a move ONLY to save yourself?

 

[dundadundun]

Well, YOU voted UN before you "saved" yourself...did YOU know he was non-communicating, also how does anyone know he was "non=communicating"?

bah! that was a total screw up. i meant 2h, not UN. also... you're right, pappy did tie it up. i've got to look over that again...