Mafia 101 - Blarney Castle: Return of the Leprechauns - Game Thread

[Lady G]

How hard is it to understand? I posted about how Toes went after AAF and then Iq picked up where he left off. It is in the posts I made last night. I stated that while we were talking about muppets Toe was like a pit bull with his teeth in AAF's arse. That is pretty simple language and easy enough to understand.

Just as easy to understand that while everyone was convinced of Toe's guilt, you were trying to direct attention to Dawg, Kashta and myself working together. I didn't know it for sure at the time but guess what, Dawg was innocent. Makes me wonder about your alignment. Think I need to take some time and do some digging. Don't worry though, I will be back before I go to bed.

Well you you just put words out there with no reference to what you are talking about....it causes some confusion at times, sorry I didn't get your reference to a post made what 2 days ago, I wanted to be sure I knew what you were talking about when did that become such a bad thing?

Yep, I was trying to see what would happen if other names were thrown out there, since we learn absolutely nothing besides the players role if everyone is on the same person...again, is that a bad thing? Unlike you who admitting vote one player while hoping the cards fall on the other. As far as Dawg, after he answered I pretty much made it clear I wasn't as concerned with him. Why you getting so bent out of shape over a couple simple questions?

 

[Lady G]

BTW, when did I say YOU were working with anyone Wizard...I actually said I wasn't sure on you and would need to see more.

 

[Lady G]

Next, even though it sucks to lose Dawg, we really could use you in this game, if the bartender was to unknowingly target an innocent, it is good that he chose the same one the scum targeted. It kept us from losing two to their one. It also takes the green beer out of the equation now that it has been used. The healer only needs to worry about the scum hit and we only have to worry about finding scum.

Do the shamrocks not worry you Wizard...
The Celtic Clan, Innocents, have 2 magic shamrocks that can be delivered. One of the shamrocks doubles a persons vote for one game night. One of them changes good to evil, or evil to good. These two (2) Innocents can communicate outside the thread. When they decide to send the magic shamrocks, they must say to who they want it delivered, at the start of the new game day; Both must let me know the chosen. There will be a 50/50 chance that the magic shamrock will work and it will be decided by a coin flip. The shamrocks must be used on game nights 2 or 3. If the magic shamrocks have not been delivered by nightfall on game night 3, I will use a random number generator to decide who gets one on night 3 and one on night 4.

 

[Lady G]

Night 1 vote count:
AAF (3) - Zaffy (#31), Fozzy (#37), O3T (#92)
Zaffy (1) - Red (#41)
Fozzy (0) - Dawg (#42)
Dawg (1) - AAF (#44)
Red (3) - Hi Iq (#52), Kash (#90), Dawg (#108)
Chill (1) - LG (#64)
Driver8 (1) - JB (#70)
LG (1) - Driver8 (#84)
O3T (1) - Wiz (#91)

No vote: Chill

Current vote count:
O3T (8) - Dawg (#164), JB (#168), Hi Iq (#171), Zaffy (#180), Kash (#195), Wiz (#209), Fozzy (#211), LG (#219), Driver (#221)
Hi Iq (1) - AAF (#185)
Kash (2) - O3T (#217), LG (#235)


PMs as needed. Nightfall in 24 minutes.

Just putting a few thoughts out there about votes:

Knowing Chill and O3T were Leps: of course we have no idea what way Chill would have voted, I'm going to have to lean AAF innocent, I can't see a team mate putting him in the lead for N1 lynch. The fact they voted Kash, does not however clear her in any way for me...there was no real threat of her being lynched and the vote there could easily been placed to "distance".

Knowing Red and Dawg were both innocent: We have IQ and Kash on an innocent night one, and a scum night two we really can not look much at night 2 since the entire town was there pretty much. We have O3T on Kash for night two, again this means nothing since there was no threat to her this can be seen either way.

Ok, I guess this didn't really do much but is something to look back at as the game goes on.

Right now I am leaning either Kash or IQ as Lep is the only thing I have from this.

 

[the wizard]

I have gone back through the days posting and these really stick out to me. At a time we have everyone pretty much convinced that the confirmed scum slipped with his statement about chill, LG, pulls her vote off of O3T. What follows is what appears to be a last ditch effort to see if O3T could be saved by attempting to paint a "scum team" of more dangerous players that should be eliminated before O3T. It kind of looks like the "pocket mafia" idea without mentioning it.

Kash, Dawg and O3T...had Chill "come along" with a vote, and it wasn't on either of the two up for the lynch....what would you of done?

For now, I retract my vote on O3T I have some thinking to do about Kash and Dawg right now. Will wait to see who answers what before I decide my vote but it will be for one of the three, O3T,Kash or Dawg.

Not much to catch up but this caught my eye.







I think its interesting that both of you wanted the coin toss to go the other way to see if it told you anything about Toes but neither of you moved to AAF to find out. If someone piques your interest and its Day 1 with not much to go on,never mind the fact innocents usually go first, why not vote a person that would in the end tell you more about another suspect?


Wizard, I didn't take over where Toes left off. I wanted more clarification and to be sure, I couldn't just write it off as ok I believe you. Just because Toes was happy with his answer I was supposed to accept it? Anything after post 182 was just messing with him because I was bored and he was making me laugh by getting frustrated.

I have to wonder if you guys didn't move to AAF and are targeting those who question him because you are protecting him? Besides Toes. He was already screwed before you came on. Is this a plan to attach him to me and get me lynched next?


At this point I'm not getting a warm fuzzy feeling about either of you and one of you will likely be my vote tomorrow.

Here IQ is suggesting of where his vote will fall tomorrow

Why not tonight?

G really wants to change the voting for tonight. Why is that?

Because Toes is obvious scum. And even though Kashta and Wizard are probably more dangerous if scum the numbers aren't there to lynch them.

I assume you have played this game before correct? So you would know things are not always as they seem and things can change in the blink of an eye right? It is my experience that most the time when someone has pretty much the entire town on them, they end up being innocent. Now of course there are times that is not true and this very well could be one of those times...that statement that Chill was the only one who knew he was evil is very curious, and my vote may very well end up back on them...but right now, Kash and Dawg depending on his answers (I will say, what he has answered so far seems up and up) have my attention.

I just want to add one other thing that did make me pull my vote on O3T (for now)....in the nightfall, Labby did not say Chill was the NC Lep and most games that is revealed if it is the case. Of course I have no idea how Labby would call it.

O3T knew that Chill was the only one that knew what his role was, even though LR didn't state that as being the case, and that caused you to retract your vote off of O3T?

You have played these games before right?

These next two posts make it very difficult for me to believe that you two are not working together andtrying to save O3T from the lynch.

Both are good points and if enough players deem Kashta votable I'd consider moving. But it is hard to overlook Toes comment,even if his statement of making a mistake is plausible, I'd hate to let one slip through the cracks.

Understandable

I had planned one waiting to see if Kash answered and what she said...but after thinking more about it, I can't help but think Kash is evil.

I vote to lynch Kash Her posts have me very quipped at this point, I'm seeing her "Dawg is to valuable" post as a trying to suck up to a innocent, and she was just wrong about my vote to Chill as a normal day one vote for me, I know this may not seem like much but I can't help but feel "Evil Kash" when reading her posts

Besides, I have this feeling that Kashta,Toes and maybe the Wizard are teammates and why after he screwed up they came after him for going after AAF. I think AAF is probably innocent and why they didn't move there to get him lynched. It wouldn't look good to move from one innocent to another even if it told them more about Toes. Which is another point that makes me think they are teammates. I don't think they wondered about Toes but since he screwed up they could use that as an excuse. Wizard even voted Toes Day 1"randomly" *cough* distance vote *cough* plus by befriending AAF he won't vote against them but with them.

Nice try, I don't think that I need to try to befriend AAF to keep him from voting me. It isn't my style. I play an in your face game and root out scum I don't worry about being lynched because the town learns something from it. Bread crumbs, remember? They leave a trail. If the town nails one scum from my demise, it is worth it.

I certainly want everyone to vote who the feel is most likely scum and I'm not trying to force your hand or bully you into any vote...but are either of you thinking for yourself or just following the crowd? I do agree the post of O3T is questionable...but you both have stated how everyone else is voting them so you don't want to move. As I said I do want you to vote who you feel is scum, I just want to be sure you are voting from your own thoughts and not just because it's "popular" at the moment.

Again G All I can see when you say things like this is an attempt to save O3T.

Thank you, a thought of your own...and one I can see plausible...not sure on Wiz right now, will have to see more before I have any thoughts on him

I may be wrong partially about this but from what I am reading it looks like the remaining scum tried to save their scum mate. One thing I don't think I am wrong on is G's allegiance this game. I really don't see any reason to delay on my vote I don't think any thing short of the Lep King RCing could change my vote.

I vote to lynch LG

 

[the wizard]

Well you you just put words out there with no reference to what you are talking about....it causes some confusion at times, sorry I didn't get your reference to a post made what 2 days ago, I wanted to be sure I knew what you were talking about when did that become such a bad thing?

Yep, I was trying to see what would happen if other names were thrown out there, since we learn absolutely nothing besides the players role if everyone is on the same person...again, is that a bad thing? Unlike you who admitting vote one player while hoping the cards fall on the other. As far as Dawg, after he answered I pretty much made it clear I wasn't as concerned with him. Why you getting so bent out of shape over a couple simple questions?

Last night G not 2 days ago. Of course I can understand how hard it could be to remember 1 post out of the multitude of posts that have been made since last night.

 

[the wizard]

BTW, when did I say YOU were working with anyone Wizard...I actually said I wasn't sure on you and would need to see more.

You are correct, it wasn't you it was your scum buddy that threw me in the mix.

 

[the wizard]

It is late and I didn't get much sleep last night so I am out.

My oldest son is in town, arrived today so I probably wont be around much tomorrow I haven't seen him in 15 years and will be spending some time with him.

 

[Lady G]

LOL you are humorous if nothing else Wizard, if you really believe what you posted. I think I made it pretty clear why I switched my vote and exactly what I didn't want to happen did...we gave the Leps a PERFECT place to hide their vote. I do think you "twist" of events is clever though

 

[Lady G]

But if you hoped the coin flip took out AAF to find out more on Toes then why not put AAF over the top to make sure ou found the info you were looking for? Is AAF a better player then Red?

This actually is a good question, if you "hoped" the coin would flip the other way, it makes no since not to vote there. This goes for Kash too

I have to make a "correction" here, at the time I posted this I was thinking Wizard had voted Red...since that is not the case, it really isn't that big of a question to me personally...there would of been no reason for Wizard to switch his vote unless he thought AAF was scum, which he clearly did not, now I'd like to know why it seems so important to you IQ?

Again G All I can see when you say things like this is an attempt to save O3T.

G

You need to take your blinders off Wizard.

Now, I'm trying to decide if this is just a over hyper innocent Wizard taking my posts wrong and putting his blinders on because he can't seem to grasp the fact he could be wrong...as he has done many, many times OR if he is a Lep desperately trying to get others to follow him.

Right now, Kash and IQ have my attention the most Wizard I just can't say I think is evil, I've seen this from him way to many times when he was innocent.

It is late and I didn't get much sleep last night so I am out.

My oldest son is in town, arrived today so I probably wont be around much tomorrow I haven't seen him in 15 years and will be spending some time with him.