Mafia 2014 #1-- FF1 Simple--The Play

[TwoHobbies]

If any scum teammate can send in the hit than I'll be withdrawing my vote on Pappy. If it needs to be the Don until his/her death than it stays on Pappy. I too would like clarification now on that, because of the below:

Wow, Am I over tired or am I missing something here.

I'm also biting my tongue here for you FF. You highlighted the rules.

 

[Fishfriend1]

Wow, Am I over tired or am I missing something here.

I'm also biting my tongue here for you FF. You highlighted the rules.

The rules state as follows:

"Each night you need to PM me who you desire to have hit." - The Don-Specific Rules

"If the Don is killed you may continue to send names for the hit each night." - Evil Specific Rules

So it could be taken as the Don needs to post the hit UNTIL he/she dies or that any player who is scum can place the hit. If the latter, my argument collapses and I have no reason to vote Pappy. If the former, my argument holds ground and I will remain on Pappy.

 

[TwoHobbies]

If the hit was locked on Kashta than the following people are possible Dons:

Myself - having not been around there for the nightfall, I am obviously a prime suspect for being a Mafia Don. Besides this, I suppose you can say Kashta was questioning me on Day 1 but by that logic the hit would have been you Pappy. Regardless, I can understand fully if people wish to vote me as the Mafia Don.

Bally - They don't appear to have been around during nightfall, and as such they are a suspect.

The above is assuming that Team Scum didn't know where the votes would go or that DD would be the lynch. I have thought about the scum team not including you Pappy, but I find it hard to believe that any active Don would risk their hit on a possible Lynch target.



No, I simply mixed up the timing of the last few votes is all. It isn't very relevant to my argument so I don't see why you make such a big deal on it?



I am well aware that my being away makes me look bad. I do not argue that point. I argue that Pappy voted DD in order to ensure that the Lynch wasn't also the Hit. Also, the sarcasm wasn't appreciated.

This is from your post, How could the scum team (2 people) have known where the last 4 votes JP, Zaffy, Wiz, and DD's no vote would land.

Am I reading your post wrong?

 

[TwoHobbies]

The only conclusion I can draw from that is you think Pappy is at best a mediocre player.

 

[Fishfriend1]

This is from your post, How could the scum team (2 people) have known where the last 4 votes JP, Zaffy, Wiz, and DD's no vote would land.

Am I reading your post wrong?

Yes you are haha. I was stating that they wouldn't know where ANY votes would go because they would have had to leave before most of the votes came in. Assuming scum weren't around of course. That's the best theory I can think up for a hit on Kashta without Pappy being evil, which was what the response was towards.

 

[jpappy789]

Is this not clear JP

I read the rules 2H, and I've clearly been acting under the assumption that the Don is the sole player able to use the hit at this point in time.

However, I see nothing wrong with wanting to get a clear cut clarification from the mod.

 

[jpappy789]

No, I simply mixed up the timing of the last few votes is all. It isn't very relevant to my argument so I don't see why you make such a big deal on it?

My big deal is that you threw out an erroneous point for the sake of arguing I'm scum without bothering to fact check beforehand.

 

[Fishfriend1]

My big deal is that you threw out an erroneous point for the sake of arguing I'm scum without bothering to fact check beforehand.

My theory is that you voted DD in order to ensure that she would be the lynch and therefore make certain that the scum hit wouldn't be wasted on Kashta. The User thing was merely a stay thought about how you could have chosen to create a 3 way tie between Kash, DD, and User, something I freely admit was an incorrect statement due to timing. It has little to no relevance in regards to my primary theory.

 

[the wizard]

I see that the most common thing I see for the hit being on kashta who was in the running for the lynch was that the scum team was inept. Then maybe the Don has to make the decision, which is possible but I haven't seen confirmation from RB on that.

Has anyone considered a third possibility? Could the scum team just not cared so much about their first hit as much as the thought of "this ought to mess with their heads trying to figure this one out"?

After all, look at how much discussion has been devoted to why the hit was on Kashta. I believe that it has caused us to focus more on who wasn't here at nightfall than who was (with the exception of FF's JP theory).

I am at lunch now and will check back in and vote before clocking back in to work.

 

[Rbishop]

As long as the Don is alive, they send in or change the Days hit.

If the DON gets lynched/killed, the mafia minion(s) have the power to set/change the hit.