Dwarf Gourami with black around its mouth?!?!

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Bailey7091

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Hello, I’m a new fish owner and I have a gourami that was doing fine at first but then started to get black around it’s mouth and spotting around the dorsal fin. I have let it go for about 2 weeks just putting stress guard in the tank according to the directions. When I first noticed it it was very prominent and he was acting strange (swimming around in circles really fast) then he started to calm down after a couple days. I had removed my other gourami that was with it from the tank about 2 days prior to this because of “fish herpes” and put it in a 10 gal by its self. Now the red spot on the other is gone and I want to put it back in the tank with the other fish but I don’t want it to get sick if the other fish is already sick. Also I forgot the water parameters have been checked every two days and are really good. What could this be? I know this isn’t the best photo but this is the best I could get as he/she likes to hide.

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I don't believe that fish get herpes.
Parameters "all good"? You always need to provide the exact numbers of your parameters for your ammonia, nitrite and nitrate.
Is the tank cycled? Are you aware of the nitrogen cycle? If yes, for how long did you cycle the tank?

I might know what you mean by 'red spot'. Does it look like a small red spot/bump? This might be because of poor water quality. Monitor you water water parameters, and if ammonia (NH3 / NH4) and/or nitrite (NO2) are above 0ppm, do a 75% water change including vacuuming your substrate.

For the final question, what size tanks do you own and what fish and how much of each?
 
Captive fish aren't any more immune to viruses that wild fish can get.

So yes captive fish can get it.

Id be wary though of dwarf gourami disease. Its thought to be caused by a slew of different viruses, no 100% sure info, but what can be said is dwarf gourami are most prone to many sorts of problems due to being genetically weaker now because of their poor breeding.

I just lost my female dwarf this morning, I won't know the *exact* cause, but given she only lasted a little over 6 months, the loss could probably be blanketed by the term Dwarf Gourami Disease.

OP, your dwarf is male. But lesions and lumps are often a sign of various problems dwarves get unfortunately.
 
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I heard from a wholesaler the other day they are no longer stocking dwarf gourami's... they are too inbred and too weak. It won't stop others to keep selling fish with a life span of a couple of months, though.

Thanks to people insisting to mix temperate fish (koi, goldfish) with tropical fish pathogens can and do spread to other species.
 
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Yes, and YOU control what other people do :rolleyes:

The loach is right about this.
 
NoodleCats said:
Captive fish aren't any more immune to viruses that wild fish can get.

So yes captive fish can get it.

Id be wary though of dwarf gourami disease. Its thought to be caused by a slew of different viruses, no 100% sure info, but what can be said is dwarf gourami are most prone to many sorts of problems due to being genetically weaker now because of their poor breeding.

I just lost my female dwarf this morning, I won't know the *exact* cause, but given she only lasted a little over 6 months, the loss could probably be blanketed by the term Dwarf Gourami Disease.

OP, your dwarf is male. But lesions and lumps are often a sign of various problems dwarves get unfortunately.
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I’m not sure if I’m replying correctly but thank you so much I had though it might be this as well but when he was still alive a week later I was skeptical. ps thank you I was wondering if it was male of female
 
Sprinkle said:
Though if the species aren't kept together, they can't.
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They are it two separate tanks because of the herpes On the other gourami. I was wondering if it would be okay to put them together when he gets better Or if I should just let him live out the rest of his time :/
 
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