Any help/advice for a newb would be appreciated.

ok first you are cycling a tank with fish in it, you dont see the problem with adding fish to the wild "even though u wouldnt do it", your pleco alone will outgrow a 55g, want to feed feeder fish(hello diseases!) to a predatory fish but dont want to pay for the proper accomodations. ithink if you want to take this hobby seriously you should research:read: before you do anything more and realize that it isnt cheap! im not trying to bash you but you ask for our opinions and this is mine. you should check out monsterfishkeepers.com for great info on predatory fish and the proper food for them.:thm:
 
I'm sure you would kill every single fish, every single time you go fishing. Either that or you are just a millionaire, with twenty empty 100 gallon tanks, just waiting for fish that you are about to go catch.


Are you seriously going to tell me that if you, an obvious fish lover, would kill just about every fish you catch when you go bass fishing? Be real.
 
:mad: non-native fish should be rid of or they could ruin the eco-system of that body of water. they are like diseases, they could eventually take it over killing everything else. that is why you ALWAYS catch oscars etc. but hey whats one more?
 
dmopar74 said:
ok first you are cycling a tank with fish in it, you dont see the problem with adding fish to the wild "even though u wouldnt do it", your pleco alone will outgrow a 55g, want to feed feeder fish(hello diseases!) to a predatory fish but dont want to pay for the proper accomodations. ithink if you want to take this hobby seriously you should research:read: before you do anything more and realize that it isnt cheap! im not trying to bash you but you ask for our opinions and this is mine. you should check out monsterfishkeepers.com for great info on predatory fish and the proper food for them.:thm:
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What do you mean by paying for proper accomodations?

I am not worried about my pleco getting to big, this pleco was in a vivarium type tank before the tank its in now. I have had it for about 3 months, and I have noticed hardly any growth in the fish at all. And like I said before, I will bring it back to my lfs once it gets to big. Most of the people I have talked to have told me that once they get bigger they make more of a mess than they do clean anyways. I have done research, I have read lots of websites trust me. Even though I have read alot, I still want to hear the opinions of different people, not just what a website says.

Thanks for the link.
 
dmopar74 said:
:mad: non-native fish should be rid of or they could ruin the eco-system of that body of water. they are like diseases, they could eventually take it over killing everything else. that is why you ALWAYS catch oscars etc. but hey whats one more?
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Here we go again.

When did I say I was going to put non-native fish in the wild? Yes I said there is nothing wrong with it, with certain fish there isnt, with certain ones there is. There are already tons of cichlids in the waters down here, I personally do not think that it would make a difference if one more was in the water. Thats like me buying a pet cane toad, and releasing it, it would not make any difference, cause there are already so many. As for fish like Pacus, piranhas, knife fish, and other fish that there are not that many of, no, I think it would be a terrible idea to put a fish like that in a lake or canal. There is no possible way we can get rid of the cichlids in our waters, cause there are so many. Other fish like the ones I mentioned I think we could be able to get rid of, or at least prevent from spreading anymore, therefore I do not think its a good idea to put a fish like that in the wild.



This is ridiculous. I come here for some friendly advice, and all I am getting is bashed. I wanted to ask a few opinions, is that to much to ask for?
 
well a common pleco should hit 18" or more full grown, if yours isnt growing you proboably have stunted its growth by not providing the proper accomodations and you stated that you didnt want to spend alot of money on tanks etc. or whatever for 10$ fish. my pleco went from 2.5" to 12" in six months and is still growing strong.
 
dmopar74 said:
well a common pleco should hit 18" or more full grown, if yours isnt growing you proboably have stunted its growth by not providing the proper accomodations and you stated that you didnt want to spend alot of money on tanks etc. or whatever for 10$ fish. my pleco went from 2.5" to 12" in six months and is still growing strong.
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Not providing the proper accomodations for a pleco, and I stunted its growth? Good one. I dont know why the pleco isnt growing. I have 3 snails in my tank, maybe they are eating to much algae? I usually brush the glass everyday to get the algae off it, that could be why, I also have what I think are two good filters. I never said I didnt want to spend alot of money, I have already spent alot of money, it has costed me over $700 for this tank that I have right now. Putting money into the tank is not a big deal, as long as it turns out nice. I did say that I didnt want to spend $700 on a tank, and then buy one oscar, I might as well go out and buy a nice German Shephard with that money. I said that I wanted to have a few fish, maybe 4-6.
 
TI44 said:
Not providing the proper accomodations for a pleco, and I stunted its growth? Good one. I dont know why the pleco isnt growing.


please tell me you know that it really is easy to stunt a fish's growth with poor water quality, which you cant tell by looking at the water. any other experienced and educated hobbyist knows these things. i am meerely trying to point out some things you might need to learn before adding more fish to your tank. dont be a smart *** by saying good one when this is fact. as i recall you are the one asking questions in the newbie area.
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