Behemoth planted tank

I have been away from Aquaria Central too long. Glad I came back to see this!

Did he stock it as planned? I realize a tank this large gives target species places to escape from predators, but I cannot imagine many of those Amano shrimp lasted long with all those altums and discus cruising around.

And I agree with you Tom; I'd stock the school of altums, a few schools of smaller species, and MAYBE one type of wild discus. Those 'salt water' colored discus are a bit distracting.

It is interesting that so much customized effort goes into a tank this large. I presume that public aquariums have got some of this down to a fairly standard science. There is a book to be written on 1000+ gallon setups....
 
I have been away from Aquaria Central too long. Glad I came back to see this!

Did he stock it as planned? I realize a tank this large gives target species places to escape from predators, but I cannot imagine many of those Amano shrimp lasted long with all those altums and discus cruising around.

And I agree with you Tom; I'd stock the school of altums, a few schools of smaller species, and MAYBE one type of wild discus. Those 'salt water' colored discus are a bit distracting.

It is interesting that so much customized effort goes into a tank this large. I presume that public aquariums have got some of this down to a fairly standard science. There is a book to be written on 1000+ gallon setups....

No, not at all.
I manage a 6 hectare lake that's fully planted as well.
There are very few large planted tanks with good reason, they are a lot of work.

I have seasoned the client and he knows very well that fast growing plants are not as neat as he thought now. I tried to suggest it from day one......but more is better and he still has HLD, high light disease.

But some screens will cure that and he's just now doing it.
That will make things settle way down.

There's little examples of tanks this large and most are not planted much in the substrate(this one is no exception).

Regards,
Tom Barr
 
I have to ask... how did you get into this as a business? Do you construct the tanks as well? This is honestly the job I want to set into motion for my eventual life-time career (no jokes) but I'm totally lost on where to begin.

Is this a business you get into via apprentiship? Are there college courses or technical schooling I can take? Construction or carpentry? What about the biological aspects? Is there certification required?

I've emailed a lot of custom aquarium places and people of similar profession asking these questions and I never hear back from any of them. I'm so lost. Please help me!!
 
I’ve just came across this thread and read every post. It is simply amazing. Sure the house is nice, the lifestyle must be tremendous, however I’m amazed by the way the whole tank was set up including all the equipment used... (dedicated room).

I’ve been to public aquariums and have been privileged to see the whole setup going on behind the scenes but to see one done in someone’s private residence is astounding. The sheer size of it in a room inside a home is mind boggling.

It is really good to hear that the owner prefers hands on as opposed to contracting out the work (sorry Tom) but its better for the owner to really get a grasp of what is going on, not to mention it is great therapy!!!

What ever happened to the office aquarium or the aquarium for Carey?

How is this aquarium doing? Anyway, I hope all is going well and I am definitely looking forward to an update.

Dan
 
I was just wondering, how do you get the Co2 delivered/refilled so constantly? Dont you think a Co2 generator or bottler would make everything a lot easier?


btw, IM SO JEALOUS!
 
The tank eats a 20lb bottle about every 2-3 weeks.

The client took my suggestion and is using a series of screens to block the light, much like variable shade cloth for plant nurseries.

1 screen: blocks about 20%, 2 40%, 3 screens 60-70%.
So this way we can control how much light hits the plants specifically.

And the results are much better.

I do not want to go down there to fix more problems, I want to go down there to look at a nice tank full of fish, no algae, healthy plants and nice scape.

The good thing about this client is that he really is committed to this hobby a great deal. We looked at having Tropica come to the USA and start their plant nursery here, but the cost versus the market is poor.

So I think after awhile, things will settle down in the tank as they seem to be and the tank will do better.

Controlling CO2 as tanks become larger becomes exponentially more difficult.
The present system is excellent.

But measuring how much CO2 is coming in as a rate is impossible, so we going to use a special flow meter for gas that's very accurate(Welding flow meters are too much, and not as accurate as we need).

I think that will help a lot.
Flow rate is too low and there's no suction for the filtration in the lower parts of the tank. I did not design the tank however.

I also put at least -2 drains down there, this would have gotten 4-6.
So it's a bit too late for that.

The diffusion method works very well, 30-40minutes to drop a full point or about 45 minutes to target a CO2 level.

Anything less than 1 hour is ideal.

Now it's just a matter of good stable control.
I suggested a victor medium duty regulator and clippard or german solenoid pair, we have good needle valves, tubign etc, we just need a better solenoid/reg and flow meter.

You cannot count 40 bubbles per second for example, even if you split the CO2 up into 6 lines using the ADA counters, it's still too hard to tweak the rates.

So the new flow meter ought to be a good thing as well as the solenoid and Victor reg.

Given the unique situation I've had to deal with in this set up and design, which as far as the planning here goes, was not my design/idea/job, it's been a lot harder than it could have been.

There are many unknowns going in. You deal with them as they come and make changes. As I will be doing several large tanks for other clients later, this will help a lot.

Some things need done at the beginning. Lots of holes for drains and drains on the bottom are best, with a surface skimmer as well.

One side: large canister type fine mechanical/bio closed loop. This takes in water from the bottom.
Another filter: wet dry sump, mechanical post and pre. This takes in water from the top.

A set of several smaller MH's rather than 4 woppers.
Allows easier control of lighting.

CO2 stuff needs to be top notch and made by me.
Those are some of the main issues.

I never intended to get involved in this type of work, it's come to me and I've been asked to do it.

Training for it, there really is none.
I suppose you could go to ADA and do one of their tours etc, but it'll not train you to do this nor have the skills, just namely what ADA is doing.

Which is nice and at a much smaller scale.
Amano's tank is about this size but it's much easier to care for.
I suggested a simpler scape, but that was not the client's goal.

Regards,
Tom Barr
 
I never intended to get involved in this type of work, it's come to me and I've been asked to do it.

Training for it, there really is none.
I suppose you could go to ADA and do one of their tours etc, but it'll not train you to do this nor have the skills, just namely what ADA is doing...

Regards,
Tom Barr

Might I ask what or whom ADA is? And where are they located? I'll take any kind of guidance I can get. I'm currently having a lot of nay-say about my choice of desired profession..... my family would rather I find a job putting my art talents to use. But this is artistic!! It's living, breathing, evolving artisticly constructed ecosystems!!!! I can't get them to see that... : /
 
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