Goldfish Water Temp & More...

kmail5776 said:
How do you test for fish hormones? I haven't seen a test kit for that.

test kits for:
carbonate hardness
general hardness (TDS)
pH
ammonia
nitrite
nitrate

Maybe I misread the first time, but it was mentioned 0.25 ammonia, 0 nitrite (?) 40 nitrate (?). I recommend the more frequent water changes because your tank is still overstocked. 5 fancies max for your tank. 4 is even better. You have 6 plus 12 danios. Yor cycle may handle that if you reduce feedings, but your nitrate will rise fast. As stated before, 10-20 nitrate. Bacteria will take care of the other 2. Only more frequent water changes will get the nitrate down. That's why I recommend 2x a week, 30-50% is fine.
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That was the point...Honestly...:rolleyes:


"Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessu View Post

"I though if my readings were good then the water was good.
What is the stuff you cant test for?"

TDS (total dissolved solids), fish hormones (which can stunt growth), and probably a bunch of other nasties.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_dissolved_solids"
 
oops:huh:
 
Okay, lets see....

If I put my 6 existing fancies in 100g tank, would it be able to support 1 or 2 more fancies (total of 7 or 8)?

Is there a rule peeps use to figure space needed for goldies?

I was told 1" per gallon. By that rule using full grown size then i understand why only 3 to a 29g (3x8=24).. Is that how you figure it, take the adult size and divide into tank size?

By that though, 8 fancies should be ok for a 100g, right or wrong?

And to filter the 100g, would two XP3 and a couple HOBs be sufficient?
Or just three XP3's? (The XP3's are extremely quite compared to my Whisper 60 HOB) Using the Sprayers from each xp3 should create enough aeration, right? (Or is using 3 canister filters not the best way to go?)

Oh, as far as the pictures go, Snickers and Wiggles are "mine" and Diva, Frenchy, Charlie and Bubbles are the wifes... Bubble is funny, when I clean the gravel, she gets busy pecking at my arm (She was getting the air bubbles off my arm). Bubbles and Snickers are the more dominant ones out of the bunch. Sometimes when i feed them pea's but dont scatter all over the tank, Snickers and Bubbles will use their heads to manuever the others away. Isn't it the funnest thing to just watch your fishies? Very relaxing....
 
okay,
I am not seeing 100g that are reasonable:mad: :read: , so if i go 55g and my 29g, can I split the fishies up and make it so neither tank would be overstocked (13 Danios & 6 Fancies)? ie. 4 fancies & 6 danios in 55g and 2 fancies and 7 danios in 29g
 
Eh, I suppose you could do that. The 1" rule is bunk because it doesn't take into account the fish's overall mass, waste production, eating habits, etc. There are a few rules floating around about goldfish, but the most generally used and accepted one around here is probably 20 gallons for the first goldfish and 10 gallons for each goldfish thereafter. Some would even go so far to say as 20-30 gallons for each. You could MAYBE get away with just ten gallons per, but it kind of depends on how good you are about water changes and your filtration.

As far as keeping them with danios, I suppose since it's generally accepted that the fancies can and sometimes do better in warmer temperatures you could. That and danios are notoriously hardy. Personally, I would have gone with White Cloud Minnows, but that's just me. I'm anal like that. ;)
 
1" per gallon is NOT a good rule. Should you put one 30" fish in a 30g tank? Not a chance! Maybe 5 6" fish that eat like pigs and crap all day long? Not a chance! How about 60 1/2" fish - probably the closest to accurate; but depending on the species might not be good either.

As beefsteak pointed out you need to consider how a particular fish will contribute to the tanks bio-load - you then need to figure out how your filtering will deal with that particular load.

If you have plenty of filtering turning the tank over 5-6+ times per hour; (I would do more if possible) you should be ok with 8, maybe 10 goldfish in a 100g tank.
 
Eh, I would be a bit wary about putting more than 3 full grown fancy's in a 55G. Then again, I've become very conservative about goldfish (having heard way too many people go "but why can't I keep a 3" goldfish in a bowl"). At work now I've begun taking pics of all our "big" fish, such as Oscars, Goldfish, Pacu, etc and then blowing the pic up to the fishes listed maximum size. Seeing this, and considering the full dimensions of the fish when its full grown makes people think twice (like the customer who wanted to put 2 oscars in a 28 gallon tank).
 
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