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Jonah2940

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Ok, I'm panicking.

Came home from work hour ago to a dead Goby & Royal Grammar and my Yellow Eye Tang looking like this (very lethargic).
My other fish, Yellow Tang, Flame Hawkfish, Bangaii Cardinal, Maroon Clown seem fine and are feeding as they all were last night.
Amm - 0
Nitrite - 0
Nitrate - 10
SG - 1.024

I've immediately treated with Esha Oodinex which is an all round treatment. Is it Marine Velvet? The Yellow Eye looks very poorly and it appears that some of the skin is coming off.
Should I freshwater dip the Yellow Eye or will it stress it out even more?
Thanks

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Ok, few questions to start with..

What is the tanks pH?

have you netted the fish and touched the skin? does it feel/look slimey?

You say that some skin has come off, does it leave bloody patches behind?

what can be seen from the dead goby and grammer with regards to skin infections, bumps, blisters etc etc...anything out of the normal?

Niko
 
atnixon said:
Ok, few questions to start with..

What is the tanks pH?

have you netted the fish and touched the skin? does it feel/look slimey?

You say that some skin has come off, does it leave bloody patches behind?

what can be seen from the dead goby and grammer with regards to skin infections, bumps, blisters etc etc...anything out of the normal?

Niko
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Sorry, PH is 8.3.

Haven't touched the fish and it hasn't been netted since it wa in the LFS about a 6 weeks ago. It appears to have a slight sheen to the skin. I don't know if it is the skin thats coming off but there doesn't appear to be any blood.
The dead fish seem normal although I was thinking that the Goby was losing weight recently (although eating fine).
The last couple of minutes the Tang has started to swim around a bit more. Can't get a clear photo but it's face seems quite drawn in and its mouth seems constantly open.
Should I turn the lights off on the tank to reduce any stress?
Thanks for the quick reply.

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I can't see any signs of parasites on the goby or the gramma. That makes me wonder if the tangs appearance is due to stress rather than the presence of amyloodinium. You haven't mentioned flashing (scratching on the rocks) as a symptom, and we would expect to see that if a parasite was involved.

The standard procedure in a case like this is to do a very large water change and run carbon to remove any poison that might have accidentally been introduced into the tank.

Good luck.

Paul
 
Thanks for the help guys but unbeliveably since my last post the Tang has died. Can't believe it, 3 fish lost in a couple of hours.
The other fish are doing fine though, I really can't understand what it could be. I haven't had anything near my tank and I haven't added anything to it.
 
i am so sorry to be hearing this...concerns me as to the speed and time scale all this has happened in the tank...i would certainly do as Johanson has suggested and do a good water change and run carbon quite quickly...Can you post a photo of the tang now please, so we can get a better look at the skin dissorder?

Niko
 
Now that it's out of the water you can't really see it. I don't know if you can see it in the photos but whatever was on the skin appears to have gathered in blobs now that it is out.
It appeared to be over its eyes also, just before it died it appeared to be bumping into the glass.
I have just spoken to my girlfriend who failed to tell me that a couple of days ago she saw the Tang scratching on the sand. I didn't see this myself and she knows nothing about fish and didn't think to tell me. Ich? But I can't see any spots?

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that sucks, I'm sorry! I hope you get it figured out for the other fish. Good luck!
 
Hi Jonah. I'm really sorry this happened to you and know how frustrating it can be.

My first thought was brooklynella, which is also known as "clownfish disease" although other fish can, and do, get it. I had 2 clownfish and a kole tang die about a month ago from this. They looked exactly what your pictures look like and your fish can die literally hours to a couple of days after first noticing the symptoms.

I am definitely ruling out ich because it happened too fast and it doesn't look like it at all.

I just checked and am still leaning toward the brooklynella- unfortunate, rapid killer.

Take a look at this link if you get a chance:

Posts #2 and #3
http://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/showthread.php?t=127010

Your pictures of the faded colors and your statement saying "it appears that some of the skin is coming off" would also fit the description of brooklynella.

The usual first indication would show itself as rapid breathing and loss of coloration in the head area of the fish, followed by obvious excessive mucous sloughing off of the fish,

The previous sentence is taken from here:

Also check out the pictures...
http://home2.pacific.net.ph/~sweetyummy42/brookynella.html

More info:
http://saltaquarium.about.com/b/a/247791.htm

Again, I'm really sorry you had to go through this whether it was broolynella or some other disease.
 
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