dechlorinator

dechlorinator problem

This seems to be quite the debate. I've always treated the 'new water' BEFORE adding to the tanks, since i have 5 tanks to deal with. I have a 10 gallon container, and treat that when full, for 10 gallons. Then i have no worries about chlorine when adding to my tanks. Wouldn't it make it easier to do this way?
I also add Cycle to the water before adding to the tanks - then all water is already treated - no worries about chlorine, chloramines, or heavy metals, plus has added bacteria as well. AND - since the treaments say this amount for 10 gallons - it' makes it really easy.

Just the way i do it. Hope it helps.
 
I was just asking about this at Big Als. They told me that they do all their tanks with a python and they dose based on the total tank volume with a full dose of declorinator just prior to adding fresh water. It works for them so thats what I am doing.
 
after seeing this question thrashed out in a few threads now I'm of the believe that it doesn't matter which way you do it as long as you're doing it.
 
The logic makes sense to me to add to tank capacity, but can't that hide actual problems? Isn't that basically relying on chemicals to keep the params in check?

I say stay with the "shake it, shake it" method even if using the python... you have to vacuum the gravel right? If gravel vacing is enough to kill fish, mine would all be dead. Sure there isn't something else going on?

Just a newb with random questions...
 
Do you mean (about it masking problems/using chemicals to keep good parameters) because it has a detoxifying effect on Ammonia (and Nitrite in high doses) ?

If so the point is that Prime has these useful qualities - useful in emergencies that is, but isn't (shouldn't be) a substitute for water changes. So dosing to whole tank volume means you take out the old water, add Prime to the volume of the whole tank, refill with fresh water - not just dose Prime instead of doing water changes.

Is that what you were asking ? If not ask away again :)
 
That pretty much answers my questions. I was concerned that if I dose to the whole tank volume, that I may miss it if something (NO2, NO3, or Ammonia) spikes.
 
The logic makes sense to me to add to tank capacity, but can't that hide actual problems? Isn't that basically relying on chemicals to keep the params in check?

I say stay with the "shake it, shake it" method even if using the python... you have to vacuum the gravel right? If gravel vacing is enough to kill fish, mine would all be dead. Sure there isn't something else going on?

Just a newb with random questions...

Yeah I saw that too - I think the "Shake it Shake it" comment is some way of expressing the act of getting the the siphon going. Some people pump their gravel vacs quickly to get suction. I can see how that might lead to some stress.

Python's don't require pumping action for siphoning... but then again, neither do gravel vacs. Most people use the idea of filling up all the water, end to end, and letting gravity cause suction all on it's own, no pumping.

I have heard that you CAN overdose on Prime, that it is very concentrated. I'm not sure what the issues are, but it seems since I've cut back in the past two months to just a few drops of what I need, maybe a teensy bit extra, the fish got much healthier. The neon symptoms almost disappeared. But then again, I have freaky fish as you all know.
 
The tee fitting that is also the venturi to suck water out is on your faucet.

When done draining, I lift the tube out of the tank, so it is in open air. The water is still on at the sink, with just tap water flowing thru it now.

Hold thermometer in water and adjust temp. Turn closure valve and now the water flows to the tank.
 
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