MAFIA #5 The Play.....
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I'm currently of the mind that one or more of the Mafia this round are our experienced players. Coler you were my number one pick but the botched murder certainly gave you great cred. As I said before there is still the chance the Mafia would of made the risk in hopes of having the outcome that occured but I can't imagine them using an experienced player like yourself in such a gamble. Therefore I am more inclined to follow your reasoning as I did JM's in the previous round. Also, rb's wording in the opening still has me concerned with the "appears to be" clause. My only idea would be that there are actually 5 Mafia with the Don being considered separate. I know I read on Wiki that in some games the Don will Investigate as "Innocent" since he would presumably have such a good cover. But would rb add such an element without saying it clearly?
Adjusted now as follows :
Judgemax
Dangerdoll
bkw (weak suspicion)
Ice
My other candidates (all weak)
Mee-Mee
Ogre
Sploke
i too think judgemax looks fishy, as coler said.
My list of suspects has not changed much.
KOTD
DD
JM
but to prove true, i will not at any time during this day, remove my vote to lynch myself... i have no intentions of doing so. Even if it gets to the point where it may be death if i do not do so.
Jay
My list of suspects has not changed much.
KOTD
DD
JM
but to prove true, i will not at any time during this day, remove my vote to lynch myself... i have no intentions of doing so. Even if it gets to the point where it may be death if i do not do so.
Jay
Lunch time, be back in an hour or so to check in again before getting back to RL work. I kinda like these shorter days although the times are a bit strange. I can definately work with it though.
Well....this is annoying. I know it almost has to be either joander or judge is Mafia...but which one? I'm still leaning towards jo...big part of that is because all the votes, last minute votes, came against clown lover so jo would make it. Seems fishy.
CL
CL
I have to agree with you Cl. The switching votes thing is odd...must investigate further...
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Analysis of Ice - day one to now.
First post of any note : post 55. Earlier enquiry as to how many mafia there in fact are.
Then post 88 - quotes three of us, one by clown lover (re numbers of mafia), one by me, ice hints at me being mafia for posting about a mafia 101 strategystrategy , one by joander, ice says that joander has made the classic mafia slip up.
Comment : This 'classic mafia newbie slip-up' has only ever been related back to cory lover in game 4...it is not a 'classic' mafia newbie slip-up.
Then post 95: Note naming CL and Joander...and me too btw lol (check my earlier post for who first put CL and Joander together...I may have missed this post by Ice in that regard)
There is then some innocuous posting concerning how many mafia there are (ice thought there were 22 players at one point, no big deal, I think), also advice to new players to post nothing with a 'mafia vibe' as it will make us think they're mafia. Some comment about the roles being completely random (Ice was detective last game)
Then this : post 164 : Flattering for me, but my 'list' was not a list at that stage. It was an analysis of joander, sploke and i think dangerdoll :
Adopting someone elses position, if they have named an innocent, is a mafia tactic - it means the mafia can divorce him/her self from the innocent lynch in due course.
Now, look at my post - not a list at all. Its post 157
Here in fact is a list I posted earlier than the above post (at post 107) :
Note presence of Judge, Dangerdoll. Ice did not like this list as much as my analysis of three players though.
We then see Ice again at post 191...focusing on Sploke...analysed by me, my analysis adopted by Ice as a list
Post 211 Talking to Clown Lover...says outright that he may switch to put Clown Lover over the top. This is what in fact happened :
Remember JM's slightly extreme reaction to being called mafia early in the game 'see if I play with y'all'. This is Ice's response at post 239
HN called Ice on this, said he was defending a mafia. Ice said he typed as HN's prior post accusing of drama, so couldn't be a defence. Maybe. Could be a caution though...bkw did similar, see my post re JM.
Posts his own list at 285 :
post 301 is a nothing post. Says he thinks Ogre needs watchin...Coler is probably innocent...HN also
The final vote for Clown Lover : post 382.
Note : Jpappy was Ice's second suspect Clown was his third, going by his own list see above EDIT : I notice he named three in no particular order, in fairness. EDIT
I posted the sequence of the last votes for CL - Jensons, then me, then ice votes and I retract mine simultaneously. My post didn't say I set a trap. In fact, it wasn't much of a trap to make Mafia vote Clown Lover in the end as it was a vote for Clown Lover who was innocent, thankfully I pulled it before night. However Ice reacted by saying he hadn't fallen into a trap as he voted as I withdrew mine. But my vote was actually intended to see if people would defend Clown Lover, which didn't happen. We have to check to see if Clown Lover was ended by Ice's vote
Post 428 Ice talks about people not voting - ZS & HN...says this is dodgy. Says Mee-Mee's vote made no sense (it didn't : ' I vote for malbri because Joander has most votes' ??)
Post 440 & 439 Ice says the PM thing is a red-herring - it is/could be. I got one after night fell because I stupidly posted during night time and RB deleted my post - so I got the usual automated deletion pm. Similar at 443.
And that, boys and girls, is my audit of Ice. Does anyone think it gives him a case to answer ?
First post of any note : post 55. Earlier enquiry as to how many mafia there in fact are.
Then post 88 - quotes three of us, one by clown lover (re numbers of mafia), one by me, ice hints at me being mafia for posting about a mafia 101 strategystrategy , one by joander, ice says that joander has made the classic mafia slip up.
Comment : This 'classic mafia newbie slip-up' has only ever been related back to cory lover in game 4...it is not a 'classic' mafia newbie slip-up.
Then post 95: Note naming CL and Joander...and me too btw lol (check my earlier post for who first put CL and Joander together...I may have missed this post by Ice in that regard)
There is then some innocuous posting concerning how many mafia there are (ice thought there were 22 players at one point, no big deal, I think), also advice to new players to post nothing with a 'mafia vibe' as it will make us think they're mafia. Some comment about the roles being completely random (Ice was detective last game)
Then this : post 164 : Flattering for me, but my 'list' was not a list at that stage. It was an analysis of joander, sploke and i think dangerdoll :
Adopting someone elses position, if they have named an innocent, is a mafia tactic - it means the mafia can divorce him/her self from the innocent lynch in due course.
Now, look at my post - not a list at all. Its post 157
Here in fact is a list I posted earlier than the above post (at post 107) :
Note presence of Judge, Dangerdoll. Ice did not like this list as much as my analysis of three players though.
We then see Ice again at post 191...focusing on Sploke...analysed by me, my analysis adopted by Ice as a list
Post 211 Talking to Clown Lover...says outright that he may switch to put Clown Lover over the top. This is what in fact happened :
Remember JM's slightly extreme reaction to being called mafia early in the game 'see if I play with y'all'. This is Ice's response at post 239
HN called Ice on this, said he was defending a mafia. Ice said he typed as HN's prior post accusing of drama, so couldn't be a defence. Maybe. Could be a caution though...bkw did similar, see my post re JM.
Posts his own list at 285 :
post 301 is a nothing post. Says he thinks Ogre needs watchin...Coler is probably innocent...HN also
The final vote for Clown Lover : post 382.
Note : Jpappy was Ice's second suspect Clown was his third, going by his own list see above EDIT : I notice he named three in no particular order, in fairness. EDIT
I posted the sequence of the last votes for CL - Jensons, then me, then ice votes and I retract mine simultaneously. My post didn't say I set a trap. In fact, it wasn't much of a trap to make Mafia vote Clown Lover in the end as it was a vote for Clown Lover who was innocent, thankfully I pulled it before night. However Ice reacted by saying he hadn't fallen into a trap as he voted as I withdrew mine. But my vote was actually intended to see if people would defend Clown Lover, which didn't happen. We have to check to see if Clown Lover was ended by Ice's vote
Post 428 Ice talks about people not voting - ZS & HN...says this is dodgy. Says Mee-Mee's vote made no sense (it didn't : ' I vote for malbri because Joander has most votes' ??)
Post 440 & 439 Ice says the PM thing is a red-herring - it is/could be. I got one after night fell because I stupidly posted during night time and RB deleted my post - so I got the usual automated deletion pm. Similar at 443.
And that, boys and girls, is my audit of Ice. Does anyone think it gives him a case to answer ?
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