MAFIA #5 The Play.....

[joander123]

hate to say i told you so... ill bee back later

 

[Dangerdoll]

think it may be possible the don told jo and jmax to "argue" ? to throw people off?..its a classic mafia tactic..something to think about..

i knew there was something fishy about jmax..

If I am not mistaken KOTD, it seemed to me last night that you were trying to sway people to change their vote from JM last night..... yeah something's fishy alright...

 

[Coler]

Lets have a look at JL

Day one : first two posts, one follows the other :

I am on vacation and using my mother-laws computer that has dial-up. I am basicly "restricted" to being online by my wife and family to the late evenings. The next 3 days I will be at the beach, on Tuesday we are going deep sea fishing.

So I read 30 pages of postings. That is a lot for the first day. It is good to see some new faces. There are quite a few players that are real into it.

This first day is really random. I really can't come up with a good reason to lynch anyone based on this games postings and I do think using older games at this point would be smart.

My vote will be sorta random. Basicly the same why I came to my first vote last game. My vote is purely based on role playing and the first in the game to do it.

I vote to lynch clown-lover.

Also, am I correct that the days are 36 hours? If they are, thanks!

Thanks also to all who have pointed out that I had not posted yet. It makes me feel missed.

I typed something wrong.

This first day is really random. I really can't come up with a good reason to lynch anyone based on this games postings and I do think using older games at this point would NOT be smart.

To me anyway, these posts seem authentic and JL's lack of activity on the site is completely consistent with what he says.

Day two :

I am not sure if the mafia would risk hitting one of their own on this 50/50 botched hit.

At this point I am pretty sure Coler is an innocent and the mafia wanted him out. But, I am not 100% sure. It could be a very risky move worth the risk, especially if there are more than 4 mafia. It seems that there is some sort of hint of something more than 4.

I am also very concerned about the players that did not vote and the players that voted for nobody. This is not good for the town.

I voted for Clown-Lover just because they were the first to role-play, just like I did for the first role-play person last game.

I am going to throw a quick vote out here. I will not be near the computer the next couple of days.

I vote to lynch JoAnder

I think they are real real into this game and sometimes that can be a mafia tell. Plus, I do agree that the slip up could mean something.

Like many JL is voting Joander...I think he was very early in with this vote

Thanks to those that have missed me. I am on vacation and my family has not wanted me online too much. We went deep sea fishing, caught 16 king mackeral and 23 spanish makeral.

I am not sure if being the first to vote is a mafia tell or not. I do know that we are able to change our votes, so that first vote is not set in stone.

I think that not voting, voting for nobody or casting a meaningless vote is bad for the town and helps the mafia.

I also think that the first 2 days are pretty much random. The mafia last game were out of control and they should have just laid back. They really do not need to get too worked up on the first couple of days.

I am concerned about the idea that there might be more than 4 mafia.

I like the 36 hour days.

As far as the posting at night, I did see a posting by Coler after he was killed. It was a "boo" comment and he called the mafia cowards.

judgemax concerns me and she would make a great mafia member. If I was mafia I would want to hit Coler and OgreMvK. I would also investigate them if I had investigative powers.

So, who would want to hit Coler?

vote change

I vote to lynch judgemax

I also wish joander123 would not vote for themselves, this is why the town lost game 1.

The change to Judgemax was late, I think JL was one of the last to go onto her, but I don't think she was quite a dead duck at that stage. HN also changed to JM late enough, and we know he was innocent.

A quick post before checking out of the hotel...

I think we did good getting judgemax. I also think their is going to be some sort of odd twist in this game.

I can see IceH2O take on the possibilty of Coler being mafia. I agree it could be. I am 99.9% sure that Coler is not mafia.

I am curious of why they hit Hooked Newbie. I do not think HN was on anyones mafia list. The mafia will want to keep suspected mafia around. If they know what they are doing. I think this group is a little more together than the last game.

I need to read more and my computer time is limited for a few more days.

I am not 100% convinced that joander is not mafia. I also saw some strange movement at the end of the day.

At this point I think ZSandmann's actions are very suspect and

I vote to lynch ZSandmann

ZS's vote shifting causes JL some suspicions - My earlier post shows the vote-shifting post by ZS...I think it was authentic i.e. consistent with non-mafia move myself.

I am pretty sure that JL is innocent. His explanation of not being around to post checks out and there's nothing in the above posts, which are the totality of his posting, which makes me the slightest bit suspicious of him.

 

[KingOfTheDeep]

If I am not mistaken KOTD, it seemed to me last night that you were trying to sway people to change their vote from JM last night..... yeah something's fishy alright...

think what you want, i just have a strong mafia vibe from jo..

 

[Coler]

I think that we may have at least one very inactive mafia player. Here's the full list of players and my current thougts :

Malbri : Neutral on Mal...leaning innocent. See note on JM below.

mee-mee : Postings make no sense...still leaning innocent

IceH2O : for the reasons posted earlier I am sorry to say I have strong suspicions of Ice being mafia

Hooked Newbie : innocent and dead (assassinated)

Coler : I am innocent

sploke : Was on my radar all day 1, far less so since. Leaning innocent but I may be taken for a fool here. The fact that Ice also accuses sploke leads me to think sploke is innocent

judgemax : Mafia and dead (lynched). Tried to say Malbri was mafia and went to the trouble of quoting Malbri's pretty innocuous posts.

Cory Lover : I havn't looked hard at Cory Lover - no opinion

johnlarson66 : I think JL is innocent

KingOfTheDeep : I have no read on KOTD. Could very well be mafia but I think there are objectively better suspects.

joander123 : The escape on day 1 is very suspect as Clown Lover was innocent. Being objective, this does incriminate Ice and Jensons

clown-lover : Innocent and dead (lynched)

Dangerdoll : For reasons posted earlier I have strong suspicions on DD

jpappy789 : Has been under my radar. I had an early sense of mafia. A bit like KOTD, there are better suspects at the moment.

ZSandmann : An important player (in this game, forget about the others). Ice has named ZS, Sploke and Me as the mafia, which makes me doubt that sploke and ZS are mafia. I also looked closely at ZS's shifting vote and concluded it was legitimate. I am in some ways glad JL has voted ZS; I would like to see other's opinions.

OgreMkV : Low-Key. I have no strong suspicions, or strong belief in Ogre's innocence. There is one thing since the game started which has made me doubt Ogre's innocence but I can't see mafia in his play.

Jensons : Late vote on Clown Lover - suspicious. Otherwise under my radar and I have no read on her.

bkw1982 : I have since almost the start of the game had suspicions of bkw and I still do.

Players I have not done much work on and who I need to look at further :

Jensons
KOTD
Jpappy

 

[Coler]

Post 691 : talking about joander. King is sure Joander is mafia

coler isn't posting like a newbie mafia trying to make a last ditch effort to save himself


YOU ALL NEED TO WAKE UP AND SEE THIS

And post 682

uh..your posting style, and choice a of words in your posts point directly at newbie mafia, i've watched this type of posting from game 1..if im wrong..i'll be the first to say so..but i get the strongest mafia vibe from you out of anytone else.

And at 684:

looks like a last ditch effort to sway votes away from himself.

we just need to keep the votes on him..im 98.9% sure he is mafia just by the way he posts..i wish everyone one else would see it.

Nothing before then since post 583 where KOTD says he ain't the Don because he's too lazy and laid back in this game.

post 530 :KOTD was right about Jmax (so were lots of others I know)

well..no one really sparks my mafiometer yet..right now the only person i suspect is joander because of his posting style..which doesn't need to be explained...lol.

jmax aslo seems to be somewhat quieter han last round, i didnt really notice it in the beginning, but i smell something fishy going on there.

haven't seen many posts from ogre either, could be too busy conjuring up mafia strategies with his fellow mafia scum, or maybe just keeping a low profile to keep the mafia away..i know when i was the don..he was up there on a list of people to hit because he was being pretty vocal..

jpappy aslo seems to be pretty quiet..

Post 470 : This vote was very early day two, in fact I think it was one of the first if not the first

im going to keep my vote for joander

i vote to lynch joander123

Before that, There's just some posting about game 4 (judges detective work), some other pretty random stuff.

I do notice that KOTD hasn't really put out a list of his suspects

Very hard to make anything out of these posts, and therefore while KOTD, like us all, are guilty until proven innocent, there has to be better suspects at this stage, imo.

 

[OgreMkV]

Coler, I like your list and I think EVERYONE should do the same at this point. I think that will help us see who is what.

BTW: Lexie is feeling better, but still not 100% so I'll be in and out for a day or so still. In case anyone was wondering, she had a stomach virus that caused (because of inactivity) another case of mastitis. She probably wouldn't want me telling you this, but she's in bed with Xander right now. Just so there's no question of my abnormal posting.

I'll work on a list and get that up before night fall (hopefully).

mee-mee and Jensons remain strong suspects for me at this time. JohnLarson (have fun on vacation) is still voting weird though. Zsand? Is there going to be a push for him?

Malbri missed another vote (according to my notes), so they might be gone tomorrow.

 

[Coler]

I had a look at Jensons

Last four posts are just chat

This is post 694

Based on the last 50 or so posts, there are two possibilities coming to mind.

1) jo and jm are both mafia. they are playing us, trying to distract us from their buddies.

2) either jo or jm are mafia. we lynch one tonight, either we find a mafia scumbunny or we find out who to lynch on day 3.

I'm not a huge fan of option 1, or losing a townie with option 2, but both are possibilities. And, man, are those two sparring right now! They could almost be on pay-per-view. lol. At this point, I am least comfortable with jo. With that in mind,

I vote to lynch joander123.

DangerDoll, I appreciate the comments you posted about Malbri, and am mulling over the information.

~brandy

The last part of that post ^ is interesting compared to post 550 :

I think that DangerDoll needs to be looked at more closely. This post, in response to Malbri saying that Coler was suspicious, seems to be casting doubt on Malbri, ever so innocently. After this post several people started to look at Malbri. DD also watches the thread often, but doesn't post much. Just my thoughts.

For voting tonight, I will probably follow Coler 1) to ease his mind about me 2) he's a smart guy.

~brandy

I will say two things about this ^ 1) I think Mal is innocent...2) I noticed DD trying to raise suspicions on Malbri, I also noticed JM doing this too. Jensons in any event did not want to vote for JM

Post 473 I have highlighted the bit about DD. This is consistent with the one directly above, but what has since happened that DD is not on Jensons radar ?

Ogre, I am sad to be on your list. I honestly had odd vibes coming from both joander and clown lover. I had posted earlier that this was the case. I couldn't make up my mind, so I flipped a coin. Literally. I posted just after I got home from seeing Harry Potter 5, which was much longer than I had thought.

I have some current suspicions.

Joander, yet again, is protesting his innocence. He is also urging people to pay less attention, possibly to try and step out of the limelight.

DangerDoll, post 54, casting suspicion on Coler. Then the mafia try to strike Coler. Just something to look at.

Ogre, weak, and possibly even a bit vengeful, but I work from the basis that I am innocent. Putting me at the top of your list makes me think that you are not, though we have played together enough that I feel pretty safe in saying that I am not a threat as any sort of player, and that you know that, too. I know, hypocritical and paranoid, but there ya go. I hope that I give you reasons to believe in my innocence.

Cheers, brandy

Post 373 : I'm not thrilled with the coin flip as a way to decide the vote. I think objectively Joander was probably the more logical choice (bear in mind I voted no one in the end, because I couldn't decide between them...)

I vote to lynch clown-lover. It was coin flip between clown and jo. Tomorrow should be an interesting day! ~brandy

Please compare this ^ with the below quote : Clown-Lover is 'super-weak' as a suspect...Joan is at the top of the list. The suspicion of me doesn't objectively bother me, this is before the mafia tried to murder me :

Post 298 :

Ok,. I guess it's list time.... there are a few people who I am set onwatching closely.

1)joander- your posts are either really, really attributed to newness, or you are mafia and didn;t know what to do

2)clown-lover - super weak, but I don't have good "let's trust him vibes" from you

3) ? undecided- i have inklings of bad mojo coming from sploke and cory lover, although that last one just may be habit

Just my thoughts for now. I will vote tomorrow before i go see HP5.

Until then: good night and good luck!

~brandy

Again, it would seem a coin toss might not have been objectively needed to decide between Clown Lover and Joan EDIT ALSO JOAN IS BEING ADVISED ON HIS PLAY :

Post 133

G'afternoon all! I spent the morning watching my sister's softball team get there little tushes kicked! It was sad . This is already an interesting game. I think Coler came out like he did to make a splash and get people talking. 13 pages in, he is playing, imo, much like he has in every other game. JO, dude, what are you doing?! If you are mafia, your buddies need to take you out, just to protect themselves!! If you are not mafia, I don't know what to do with you. By repeatedly playing the "I'm confused" card, you spike many people's mafia-meter. This wll be an intersting 1st night! I think I will hold off voting until tomorrow. ~brandy

There were some other insignificant posts.

My thinking on Jensons is that there are more guilty looking players out there, but also more innocent looking one's too.

I wonder why Jensons is not still on the trail of Joander as a suspect, or perhaps she is and will tell us that ?

 

[Cory Lover]

Wooohoooo! Party time!!! :headbang2:

Ok....I have so many suspects.

(1) jpappy....guys look at what he did very late in the game right before JM was gonna be lynched....he was doing a last ditch effort to save her.

(2) joander (yes, still). If you go back to game four and when people started to vote for me I went after mee-mee (which was Mafia) to make it look like she was innocent (didn't work out that way). I think there is a 40% JM and Jo knew one of them was going out so they fought to make them look like they were agianst each other. Or jo is the Don and JM was trying to save him.

(3) bkw- Did sorta the same thing jpappy did before JM was lynched but a little more subtle.

(4) Ice

(5) Ogre

There you have it....thats my list.

CL

 

[Cory Lover]

Oh...also forgot to include Jensons.

CL