ok,i just read through this thread and why is evry1 saying that the boss is lying about not doing water changes? i have 2 friends who both dont bother with water changes,1 has a 5 gallon with 2 large fantails which shes owned for around 3 years,no filter, and they get water changes every few months, another friend has a 8-10 gallon with 4 goldfish and 1 weather loach, with an ugf, and they dont change their water more than once every yr or so,they do top up the tank if it starts getting too low, straight from tap with no dechlorinator etc,their fish have been living like this for well over 2 years :eek3: i find it shocking that people do this to their pets but hey,ive told them and they wont listen. not only are my friends tiny tanks incredibly overstocked,but they have never lost a fish,its amazing as i try to do my best with all my fish and ive lost so many in the past! i just dont get it! my old next door neighbours used to have 5 gallon, no gravel or anything,just few goldfish in plain glass tank with no lid, when they changed the water every few weeks there was no messing around,they just took out the fish,put them in mugs,emptied the tank, refilled it straight from tap and tipped fish back in :wall: trying to get people to understand the errors they make is near impossible when their fish live for a long time with no illness and mine go fins up at the slightest problem:angryfire: makes me mad, but not much more i can do!