2.2 watts per gallon plant list

[Jag1980]

What plants should be removed or added to this list of plants?
I did not add Cryptocoryne because I heard they are sensitive to being moved and have a good chance of suffering from Crypt Melt?

I made this list for me but I decided to share it with everyone else.
My tanks is a 29 gallon with a CF light fixture with a 65 watt 6700k


Anubias Afzelii
Anubias Barteri
Anubias Barteri Golden Nana
Anubias Barteri Marble
Anubias Barteri Angustifolia
Anubias Barteri Caladiifolia
Anubias Barteri Glabra
Anubias Barteri Narrow Leaf Nana
Anubias Barteri Petite Nana
Anubias Barteri Ekona
Anubias Gilletti
Anubias Heterophylla
Anubias Nana
Anubias Frazeri
Anubias Coffee Leaf
Anubias Congensis
Aponogeton Abyssinicus
Java Fern
Java Moss
Lace Java Fern
Microsorum Pteropus Tropica
Philippine Java Fern
Red Java Fern
Anacharis Egeria Densa – No Excel- No Bleach
Asian Ambulia
Brazilian Pennywort
Broad Leaf Giant Hygro
Crinum Natans - only bury the bottom 1/3
Duckweed
Dwarf Onion Plant – only bury the bottom 1/3
Dwarf Water Clover
Fine Leaf Corymbosa
Giant Hygro
Green Hygro
Greta Corymbosa
Guppy Grass
Najas Guadalupensis
Hydrilla
Hygrophila Corymbosa v. Ruffle leaf
Narrow Leaf Java Fern
Hygrophila Corymbosa v. Stricta Temple Plant
Watersprite
Willow Moss
Amazon Sword
Aponogeton Boivinianus
Aponogeton Crispus
Aponogeton Longiplumulosus
Black Sword Plant
Compact Hygro
Compact Sword Echinodorus Parviflorus Tropica
Contortionist Vallisneria - No Excel
Corkscrew Vallisneria - No Excel
Juncus Repens Creeping Rush
Italian Vallisneria - No Excel
Jungle Vallisneria - No Excel
Leopard Sword
Leopard Vallisneria - No Excel
Mexican Oak Leaf
Narrow Leaf Chain Sword
Nymphoides sp. Taiwan
Orchid Lily Barclaya Longfoilia
Ozelot Sword
Willow Leaf Hygro
Wisteria

 

[phanmc]

The chance of crypt melt shouldn't be a reason not to grow crypts, since most crypts are very hardy and will grow back with a vengeance.

Do you plan to use CO2? If you do you can easily double or triple your list.

 

[Jag1980]

I will be using Yeast Co2.
How would that triple the types of plants you could use with only 2.2 watts?

What happens to the Crypt that causes it to melt?

 

[phanmc]

Plants that are commonly thought to require high light may actually be limited by CO2 rather than light. Dwarf hairgrass and HC, for example, can grow with 2wpg if you add CO2. Since most people don't play around with CO2 until they go high light, the common misconception is that the plants they've had problems with needed high light.

Crypt melt isn't exclusive to crypts, I've seen many other plants that dies back simply by being moved from one location in the tank to another. The plants have adapted to growing under a certain condition, like lighting. When there's a major change to the enironment, they stop growing the existing leaves and send out new ones.

 

[gmh]

Thanks for sharing. I am going to look up some of those.

 

[Bk718]

To make it simpler for you..
Go HERE and on the Lighting requirements hit either Low or Medium.
They list alot of great plants. Only issue with some of the Medium light plants is having enough light to bring out the plants true color. But then again as already stated above you would need co2 and ferts to bring out the plants full potential.

 

[Jag1980]

Very cool site, thanks :thm:

And pictures to go with it to erv:

 

[SpitRhyma]

I will be using Yeast Co2.
How would that triple the types of plants you could use with only 2.2 watts?QUOTE]

Few things you should know about keeping water gardens...

Not all plants are truly aquatic meaning they can also grow out of water (terrestrial) in moist/wet places. Many of these plants prefer to grow out of water and are only SURVIVING under water. Therefore they have very high demands. Sometimes it's possible to keep terrestrial plants under water if you provide a VERY HIGH ammount of CO2 (more than your fish could realistically provide) and the maximum ammount of light.

Also photosynthesis uses a relatively consistant ratio of light and CO2. But when a plant "uses" light to photosynthesize it's not necessarily taking light away from other plants unless they are growing in it's shadow (aquascaping comes in here). However when CO2 is used up by plants it comes out as oxygen so it is divided by your plants. Now your'e just wasting your light for algae and killing your plants.

The more plants you have the more CO2 you need. But becareful if you have a stillwater tank because even though CO2 itself won't kill your fish, the fish can only breathe in so much diffused gasses. If there is far more CO2 in the water than Oxygen... it will suffocate and pass out eventually dying.

The best kind of CO2 diffusor is a CO2 trap if done properly.

You want your co2 to be pumped downward in a open-bottom container. The power of the water shouldn't be able to pump the larger bubbles out of the bottom as they want to float upward. This way the bubbles are always moving rapidly in your chamber and the water that they diffuse in is slowly pumped out the bottom of your container.

Instead of a open bottom container you can just drill some holes or have a mesh and fill your container up with filter media and create a CO2/filter in one.

youtube . com / aquaticheaven

 

[plantbrain]

Not all plants are truly aquatic meaning they can also grow out of water (terrestrial) in moist/wet places. Many of these plants prefer to grow out of water and are only SURVIVING under water. Therefore they have very high demands. Sometimes it's possible to keep terrestrial plants under water if you provide a VERY HIGH ammount of CO2 (more than your fish could realistically provide) and the maximum ammount of light.

Not really that high, 30-40ppm of CO2 is typically fine for every plant I've kept, that's about 400 species by my count.

I also measure light and 40-50micromoles, which is close to the range listed by the poster, is adequate and advisable.

However when CO2 is used up by plants it comes out as oxygen so it is divided by your plants.

So folks do not mess this up on the exam I'll give later today:FIREdevil:
Plants split H2O to feed e-'s into the photosynthetic pathways in the light reactions. CO2 is not split, it is fixed in the dark reactions. So the O2 comes from the light reactions and water, not CO2.

Now your'e just wasting your light for algae and killing your plants.

Not killing the plants, but they are not growing and using the light very efficiency.

The more plants you have the more CO2 you need. But becareful if you have a stillwater tank because even though CO2 itself won't kill your fish, the fish can only breathe in so much diffused gasses. If there is far more CO2 in the water than Oxygen... it will suffocate and pass out eventually dying. The best kind of CO2 diffusor is a CO2 trap if done properly.

Good advice, but simply having more current and some surface movement resolves this issue. CO2 diffusion is debatable.

Many examples work well.

You want your co2 to be pumped downward in a open-bottom container. The power of the water shouldn't be able to pump the larger bubbles out of the bottom as they want to float upward. This way the bubbles are always moving rapidly in your chamber and the water that they diffuse in is slowly pumped out the bottom of your container.

Instead of a open bottom container you can just drill some holes or have a mesh and fill your container up with filter media and create a CO2/filter in one.

youtube . com / aquaticheaven

Yep, that works, so does needle wheeling, various reactor designs etc.
I design one about 20 years ago that works ideally for DIY yeast.



Regards,
Tom Barr