20g options?

there has been a change of plans I just purchased a 75g with 80lbs of live sand, a stand, 48" PC lighting 4X65w. Best news is, I paid $70 for it. I still want to do the same basic operation. such as corals and such. what skimmer do you recomend and how many lbs of live rock am I going to need since i have live sand already. Now what kind of fish would be suggested? I still want to do little guys. I know Im going to need a skimmer and eventually an RO unit but Im going to wait a few months for the latter. I dont need RO when all I have is FOWLR do I? cuz thats all I plan on until three months when my discount kicks in. I also notice a lot of people do a sump or refugium that they put all the filtering stuff in how do one of these work? Am I goint to need a filtter other than the skimmer still or is that basically what live rock/sand is for?
 
It sounds like you have moved past the 20g, but if you are still wanting ideas here is what I have in mine: 2 ocellaris clowns, 1 firefish goby, 1 six line wrasse, 1 camel shrimp, 2 peppermint shrimp, about a dozen hermits and a few turbo snails. The tank has about 30 lbs live rock and a 2" live sand/ CC substrate. I have 2 aquaclear powerfilters and 2 powerheads for max flow. Instead of the traditional filter media for the aquaclears I have added a 1/2" CC base with a few chunks of live rock (makeshift fuges). The system and inhabitants are happy and healthy.
 
So you're back to the 20g? Honestly, if you can swing it I'd start with the larger tank. My first SW tank was my 14g, which I quickly upgraded to a 30g. Then I converted my 65g and it's just silly how much easier it is to look after - the 30g is much more finicky in terms of chemistry. I can go days without topping off the 65g, but one day without topping up the 30g makes a noticable difference. I've got a little 5.5g going as well, and need to top it off morning and night to avoid big swings in salinity. The smaller the tank, the more TLC it's going to need and the less you can pack into it, but a 20g is a nice size if you can keep it to 3, maybe 4 fish and get a decent skimmer.

I use a Remora on my 30g, it's a nice little skimmer. I started with a Prizm, which is now on the 65g, and it didn't do nearly as good a job (though it pulls out some nasty skimmate on the bigger tank, I leave it alone a lot more which seems to help). I've also got a modded AquaClear 70 filter that I use as a refugium. Basically I installed a baffle and put a light over it, and use it to grow Chaetomorpha. It really helps keep NO3 and PO4 in check. :)

You're right when you say the rock and sand are your bio filter, though having a traditional filter doesn't hurt. I find it really helpful to have a canister (65g) and a HOB (30g) around for things like carbon, PhosGuard, LR rubble, as well as for the circulation. Regardless of other filters or live sand, you'll want around 1-2lbs/gallon of LR, depending on how dense it is. I prefer lighter, more porous rock (which not only 'filters' better, but also takes up more space than dense rock), and don't like to stuff a tank with rock, so I keep around a pound per gallon and find it's enough.

An RO unit can be essential if your tap water is unsuitable, but you may not need it. Test your tap water for ammonia (will be present if there are chloramines rather than just straight chlorine in your water), nitrates and phosphates. If you find these in significant quantities I'd find another source of water - you don't have to buy an RO unit, you could get distilled from the grocery store or WalMart. Water changes are cheap on little tanks, not so much if we're talking about the 75g.

ADD--> fire fish are neat, but make sure you have a lid - they're jumpers. Also consider one of the tiny pygmy angels (Centropyge argi or C. flavicauda, maybe a flameback but they're pricey), a clown goby, or maybe a shrimp/goby combo - a tiger pistol shrimp and a yasha hase goby would be fun in a 20g. Try to avoid fish that want lots of room to run, since it's a small tank. Clowns are a good choice, they don't do a lot of swimming about.
 
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Thanks blinky... I work at a LFS and a lot of the guys there are SW gurus. They are going to help me to build a wet dry out of a 10g. I am going to order my over flow kit from aquatraders.com same with my skimmer, its basically the same thing as a bakpack or w/e. apparently they do a nicejob. I also may be putting a deep sand bed in the wet dry in a little part somehow w/ a goldfish bowl, I dont really know but they seem to have an idea? and I get 75% off all live stuff so price isnt much of a factor. Im deffinetly looking at firefish, one or two ocelaris clowns (I'd rather have a maroon but must please the gf, I may get one black and the other normal) Im going to have 5.5 WPG w/ a 50/50 PC bulb and I have gotten aragonite sand and Im going to get about a lb of live sand. What kind of live rock have you noticed is more porus? is it fiji? I love inverts so Im most likely going to go crazy with those.
 
Tonga Kaelini tends to be porous, light and sometimes branchy. Fiji is denser from what I've seen, with small holes, but you can get some gorgeous pieces. My favourite piece is a piece of Fiji that came with zoanthids, a protopalythoa, and a mussid or favites type coral (still recovering from being 90% dead, so hard to get an ID yet). I've got some Micronesian rock that's very odd, it's dense and heavy but has HUGE holes that go all the way through the rock, like catacombs. The fish seem to love it, but I doubt it's as useful as Kaelini as a biofilter. Choose what appeals to you, we all have different tastes and all live rock is good rock IMHO :)
 
Alright, things are finally starting to get moving. I emptied out my 20g and put the previous inhabitants into my 10g (just a pair of dwarf cichlids that used to be in a 10g). I need to go find my stand for a 20 long which is in the household somewhere I jsu cant remember where. I purchased a 30# bag of aragonite and Im going to get a pound or so of live sand. Sunday Im night Im going to work on getting it all set up. My friends and I are going to create a wet/dry out of a 10g aquarium but not until it has been set up a little while because of funding. Im planning on ordering most of my products from aquatraders.com. the skimmer
One of these, not sure which one yet for m over-flow
Also do you think 6.5wpg is okay or do I need 9.75 wpg. I dont want anything to terribly hard yet even though I do want a clam real bad but prob should save that for later.
 
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