A Matter of Perspective

I realize that. But when it's a friendly discussion based on uneducated opinions vs uneducated opinions, when there is a very real scientific answer, it makes me cry a little inside that more and more society would rather play make believe than take the time to discover the truth. If you were actually interested in the real answer, you could easily find it. I was just trying to let you know that.

If you want a conversation that science can't prove, based totally on opinion and perception, try "Is there such a thing as being in love with someone? Or is there only the love of the idea of being in love with someone?" Science can't get anywhere near that one!

I should also add, that I used to ponder the color question a lot when I was in elementary school. But my middle school science teacher set me straight when I asked him about it. I'm no stranger to wondering about it, but when there's a real answer, that's what I want.
So where is your answer on how the brain sees color and how everyone sees it the same? I'd really like to know. I consider myself fairly well educated, moreso than a majority of the population.
 
I realize that. But when it's a friendly discussion based on uneducated opinions vs uneducated opinions, when there is a very real scientific answer, it makes me cry a little inside that more and more society would rather play make believe than take the time to discover the truth. If you were actually interested in the real answer, you could easily find it. I was just trying to let you know that.

If you want a conversation that science can't prove, based totally on opinion and perception, try "Is there such a thing as being in love with someone? Or is there only the love of the idea of being in love with someone?" Science can't get anywhere near that one!

I should also add, that I used to ponder the color question a lot when I was in elementary school. But my middle school science teacher set me straight when I asked him about it. I'm no stranger to wondering about it, but when there's a real answer, that's what I want.

Science can answer that question, and has. It's a complex, but it's there. A better example of a question the scientific method won't deal with is: "edited by moderator 09/05/2011. removed for content. ?"
 
So where is your answer on how the brain sees color and how everyone sees it the same? I'd really like to know. I consider myself fairly well educated, moreso than a majority of the population.

Like I mentioned before, I don't have the time, nor do I care enough to go do all the research myself, and post it all for everyone here just to be "right". My discussion with my science teacher was 20 years ago, and it's not as if I memorized everything he said about rods, cones, spectrums, and whatnot. I just remember that he was able to scientifically explain the answer to the question.

All I was saying in my reply, is that if anyone is actually interested in the real answer to this question, do a little actual research, and you can find it. I wasn't calling you or anyone else uneducated, I was saying that the responses to this specific question weren't based on an education of the subject.
 
Like I mentioned before, I don't have the time, nor do I care enough to go do all the research myself, and post it all for everyone here just to be "right". My discussion with my science teacher was 20 years ago, and it's not as if I memorized everything he said about rods, cones, spectrums, and whatnot. I just remember that he was able to scientifically explain the answer to the question.

All I was saying in my reply, is that if anyone is actually interested in the real answer to this question, do a little actual research, and you can find it. I wasn't calling you or anyone else uneducated, I was saying that the responses to this specific question weren't based on an education of the subject.

Rods and cones react to specific wavelengths and intensities of light and then produce signals for the brain. Anyone who disagrees with that is ignorant. I think they were arguing that the brains interpretation of the signals may differ. That would be hard to prove. Personally, I don't think that happens very much, if at all.
 
What Zaffy said. For a majority of people, I think we do interpret colors similarly. But look at Ex, due to the brain damage from his stroke he sees colors differently than he did before. Rods and cones have nothing to do with the brain's interpretation of color, they simply convey the visual information. It's up to the brain to actually "see".
 
Genie was too lazy to find the scienceing, so I did it for him. I don't think it says what he thinks it says though... Clearly there are biological differences in how people perceive color, as well as how sensitive to color people's eyes/brains are. These are just gendered studies, but it stands to reason that within both genders, there will be a range of people with varying ability to percieve subtle shifts in color gradient. I think that means, scientifically, that we do NOT in fact, all see colors the same way.

http://scienceblogs.com/cognitivedaily/2007/07/do_women_perceive_color_differ_3.php
http://www.asu.edu/news/research/womencolors_090104.htm


Let me be the first to say,
Bladow! Sciences all up in your face parts!
 
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You see with your brain. If someone has an issue with their brain they may see/interpret colors differently. We don't all see colors the same way. You could easily show this with an experiment using LSD. The LSD group is likely to see a lot of colors you wouldn't see.
They also may see objects that you don't see :D
 
Like any husband would already know that Ricky..the ex had more versions of off white than the number sand grains in the desert...
 
Lol. From alabaster to zinc, I suppose?
 
We've gone from seeing red as blue, to slight variances? There's a world of difference between the former, and the latter. I've been speaking to the former.

And seriously Lab_Rat, come on now, I thought it was fairly obvious that I pulled rods and cones out of my butt. I wasn't saying that the answer had anything to do with them. I was simply stating that I don't remember exactly how my science teacher explained it. But he did explain it to me, after I asked him the very same question that kicked this thread off, and unless the science behind it has changed since then, aside from "slight variances" and color blindness, we all see colors more or less the same. Red is never blue, black is never white, etc. which is what this thread was originally about.
 
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