Although I would like to think that most people who have a modicum of
intelligence would research any living creature that's coming into their
homes in this age of information overload, with internet accessible in so
many places, apparently people are still making poor decisions. After
reading the rest of the posts from iceet about the CAE's, I just . . .
Well, how much research goes into buying a new car, or any new piece of
technology, be it TV, computer, music system, or any large appliances.
Granted, these are high-dollar purchases, but how many "cute little peeps"
(fluffy baby chicks) and bunny babies will come home this Easter, only to
die within a week or two? We don't value or honor the lives of animals, who
are sentient (thinking) beings with emotions and a soul.
To bring home fish without knowing about their general nature, and,
after observing their behaviors, still blame them for what comes natural,
is a shameful thing. I want cichlids; I'm limited to a 55g right now; I asked
folks here for information, providing my specifics, conditions, etc., and
now feel very confident in stocking it with the right size, right amount, and
providing them with the environment most appropriate for the species.
I'm not rushing, for these will hopefully be fishy companions for a long time.
Even my horses get shots (including rabies, as we're in the country with wild coyotes and foxes), wormed every two months, hooves trimmed, proper
diet without overfeeding, brushing, mane and tail care, carrot and apples for treats instead of sugar or other "bad" things; appropriate shelter, and
everything else they need--without being pampered, spoiled, or treated like humans (even as babies!) When I finally got my first horse at 35, I researched and read and internetted and asked many, many questions. Now I have two younger horses I've raised from babies, completely trained them
myself, and have a newborn foal. I'm not the best, and I will always be
learning more, but I feel quite confident in raising, caring, and training
them.
Have you ever wondered about the disparity between how difficult it is for
perfectly qualified couples to adopt a child, yet any bonehead can have one? If you're having a human baby hopefully you find out what you need to
do in order to have a healthy baby, prepare for its infancy at home, and
then the growing years, saving for college, etc. Unfortunately, the high school where I teach has an unbelieveably high pregnancy/birth rate (e.g.,
in last year's graduating class of 126, 25% of the girls were pregnant,
or just had given birth. There's no research beforehand--most of these kids don't even pay attention in their classes--but once they find out, they do go to prenatal classes and visit their doctors, for the most part--it's paid for with tax dollars. They aren't even out of high school, yet can bring a child in this world, while being so unprepared and so unqualified?? (Mom or
Grandma are usually primary caregives).
I apologize for the rant, but teen or adult, anyone bringing any kind of
living creature into their home, needs to understand its nature and care for
it responsibly. I mean, c'mon, how many of you would bring a pit bull into
your home as a housepet? [I know, I know, many are sweet and loving, I
have a rescued 1/2 AmStaff who is basically pit bull, but they, by breeding
and general nature, are not trustworthy. My mom was working in a very
upscale jewelry store in Sarasota FLA, the owner has an adult pit bull as
her "pet/guarddog"--my mother is a quiet, easymoving person and loves
animals. One day, out of the blue, the dog just ran up to her and grabbed
the back of her calf, with no provocation whatsoever. The owner just
shrugged; Mom quit. If she'd been truly injured, I would have gone down there and shot that dog on the spot--once attack, always attack. And I don't normally get that way] Different situation that the CAE's, but if you do your reading, look at pictures, you'll know what you have. When I brought mine home, sold as SAE, I observed it's behavior after it was integrated with the other fish. After 4 days I saw nipping at a fish--by now I knew it was a CAE due to markings (researching, including Roan's little blurb and photo!!) Decided to return it next day, but had no other place to put it (another good reason to have a plastic "fry" or whatever box to hang inside!!); fishy's fin was mostly gone next day, took the CAE back, got home that night and fish was dead.
Gosh, I didn't mean to go on so long, but I guess it's the teacher in me. What transpired with iceet was a shame, and many of us tried to educate him, he didn't listen, and feelings ran high. In the short time I've been a member here (and I'm not normally a joiner--AND it's my first chatroom foray) I have found so many people helpful with all of my questions or problems--every time. It's a shame people may visit, and only read a couple of negative postings, or post a thread that's in the wrong place and may not be answered. But after skating through alot of other sites before my start, and then during the downtimes, I haven't found anything that compares all-around!!! Quick response time, welcoming folks, and OMG, people with a SENSE OF HUMOR!!! My little eulogy to AC. Thank you, everyone.
And if you don't agree with me--waayyylll,
: :sim:
intelligence would research any living creature that's coming into their
homes in this age of information overload, with internet accessible in so
many places, apparently people are still making poor decisions. After
reading the rest of the posts from iceet about the CAE's, I just . . .
Well, how much research goes into buying a new car, or any new piece of
technology, be it TV, computer, music system, or any large appliances.
Granted, these are high-dollar purchases, but how many "cute little peeps"
(fluffy baby chicks) and bunny babies will come home this Easter, only to
die within a week or two? We don't value or honor the lives of animals, who
are sentient (thinking) beings with emotions and a soul.
To bring home fish without knowing about their general nature, and,
after observing their behaviors, still blame them for what comes natural,
is a shameful thing. I want cichlids; I'm limited to a 55g right now; I asked
folks here for information, providing my specifics, conditions, etc., and
now feel very confident in stocking it with the right size, right amount, and
providing them with the environment most appropriate for the species.
I'm not rushing, for these will hopefully be fishy companions for a long time.
Even my horses get shots (including rabies, as we're in the country with wild coyotes and foxes), wormed every two months, hooves trimmed, proper
diet without overfeeding, brushing, mane and tail care, carrot and apples for treats instead of sugar or other "bad" things; appropriate shelter, and
everything else they need--without being pampered, spoiled, or treated like humans (even as babies!) When I finally got my first horse at 35, I researched and read and internetted and asked many, many questions. Now I have two younger horses I've raised from babies, completely trained them
myself, and have a newborn foal. I'm not the best, and I will always be
learning more, but I feel quite confident in raising, caring, and training
them.
Have you ever wondered about the disparity between how difficult it is for
perfectly qualified couples to adopt a child, yet any bonehead can have one? If you're having a human baby hopefully you find out what you need to
do in order to have a healthy baby, prepare for its infancy at home, and
then the growing years, saving for college, etc. Unfortunately, the high school where I teach has an unbelieveably high pregnancy/birth rate (e.g.,
in last year's graduating class of 126, 25% of the girls were pregnant,
or just had given birth. There's no research beforehand--most of these kids don't even pay attention in their classes--but once they find out, they do go to prenatal classes and visit their doctors, for the most part--it's paid for with tax dollars. They aren't even out of high school, yet can bring a child in this world, while being so unprepared and so unqualified?? (Mom or
Grandma are usually primary caregives).
I apologize for the rant, but teen or adult, anyone bringing any kind of
living creature into their home, needs to understand its nature and care for
it responsibly. I mean, c'mon, how many of you would bring a pit bull into
your home as a housepet? [I know, I know, many are sweet and loving, I
have a rescued 1/2 AmStaff who is basically pit bull, but they, by breeding
and general nature, are not trustworthy. My mom was working in a very
upscale jewelry store in Sarasota FLA, the owner has an adult pit bull as
her "pet/guarddog"--my mother is a quiet, easymoving person and loves
animals. One day, out of the blue, the dog just ran up to her and grabbed
the back of her calf, with no provocation whatsoever. The owner just
shrugged; Mom quit. If she'd been truly injured, I would have gone down there and shot that dog on the spot--once attack, always attack. And I don't normally get that way] Different situation that the CAE's, but if you do your reading, look at pictures, you'll know what you have. When I brought mine home, sold as SAE, I observed it's behavior after it was integrated with the other fish. After 4 days I saw nipping at a fish--by now I knew it was a CAE due to markings (researching, including Roan's little blurb and photo!!) Decided to return it next day, but had no other place to put it (another good reason to have a plastic "fry" or whatever box to hang inside!!); fishy's fin was mostly gone next day, took the CAE back, got home that night and fish was dead.
Gosh, I didn't mean to go on so long, but I guess it's the teacher in me. What transpired with iceet was a shame, and many of us tried to educate him, he didn't listen, and feelings ran high. In the short time I've been a member here (and I'm not normally a joiner--AND it's my first chatroom foray) I have found so many people helpful with all of my questions or problems--every time. It's a shame people may visit, and only read a couple of negative postings, or post a thread that's in the wrong place and may not be answered. But after skating through alot of other sites before my start, and then during the downtimes, I haven't found anything that compares all-around!!! Quick response time, welcoming folks, and OMG, people with a SENSE OF HUMOR!!! My little eulogy to AC. Thank you, everyone.
And if you don't agree with me--waayyylll,