Accidental Flourish Excel overdose...aftermath...what did it do?

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So the day before yesterday I decided to dose my one 20 gallon tank with some Flourish Excel. This is a tank which has been established almost a year. I'd done a 50% water change the day before and all the fish were acting fine. I've used Excel before in this tank, out of the 500ml bottle with no problem. Well, this time I dosed out of the 2 liter bottle...directions said 1 capful per 10 gallons, so I added 2 capfuls. After some online reading, it turns out the directions are a misprint - they mean for you to dose 1 capful on the smaller bottles whose cap holds 5ml...the larger bottle has a 15ml cap. I unknowingly dosed 3X the recommended amount of Excel in my tank. Of course I did not realize this until yesterday...

I came home from work yesterday to find cloudy tank water and my poor bronze cories with clamped fins lying listless on their sides. I didn't even waste time checking my water parameters, I did two 60% water changes. I assume the ammonia was through the roof. My platies seemed fine. The cories were still totally inactive after the water change.

I've since moved the cories to my other 20 gallon tank as the platies were picking on them badly and chewing their fins. Only 3 of the 6 look like they will make it (eating, fins no longer clamped)...another ate, but still looks bad, and the final 2 are very haggard looking and will not eat or move.

Anyway, I am wondering if anyone knows what exactly the overdose did to my tank? Did it kill my bacterial colonies? Cause some other toxic reaction? The platies did not seem harmed at all, but then again they are very resilient as far as fish go. I may pick up some Bio-Spira tomorrow for both tanks as I expect the bronze guys who make it will be recovering in my healthy 20 gallon for some time and will add to the bioload.
 
not exactly sure what else it would have done, but hey... at least you know you wont be having any BBA problems anymore...
 
Seachem has a discussion forum, they answer questions daily. Might try them.
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i lost 5 of 6 corydoras sodalis when I overdosed my tank to get rid of BBA. It's odd.. the only fish I have seen have a bad reaction to the overdose are corydoras, specifically the wild caught varieties. The albino and peppered remained listless on the bottom with clamped fins, but pulled through.

It makes me wonder if its presence alone irritates them all the time, and in my planted aquarium I have since switched to a small group of hoplosternum instead of a shoal of corydoras, and they don't seem to mind at all.
 
In my 5.5G Excel CO2 only tank, I dose 5ml daily (skip two days/week) and my one saved corie does just fine. The tank is heavily planted though. Never overdosed that tank. He seems happy, but I would be too if I was about to die in another uncared for tank...

Now, my 10g which is Excel only too, I dose 10-15ml daily (depending on my made up schedule). It too is heavily planted. No cories in this one. Never had a problem, and I do weekly water changes, and add 20ml on those days. This tank I also propagate several plants to fill in other tanks so rapid growth is what I want.

No bacteria colonies should be affected, it doesnt in mine. I have dosed at times 3-4x the amount of excel for BBA and other algae, and it did not have issues.

Good luck - let us know how your cories turn out.

Aries
 
On one occasion I used excel to try to kill some algae and when I dosed the excel at 3x the dosage I noticed many of m,y fish including discus began to breathe heavily. So I did a huge water change and stopped using excel all together.
 
where I used to work, someone overdose 10x the amount of excel

recall that the bottle says one cap does up to 50 gallons...

well, that person read it as one capful does 5 gallons.

all the plants literally melted (turned transparent and wilted/died) in a day or two.

it was really drastic.

I would imagine a massive od would do that - lessons learned eh?

Aries
 
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