Adding a Second Filter to Tank

One of the big advantages of having two filters is that you can relegate one filter to primarily mechanical filtration duties and one to biofiltration (a technique learned from RTR; I don't claim to have stumbled across it myself). My biofilters are rarely cleaned (except for whisking off a prefilter sponge and rinsing it -- about a 3-4 minute process, tops. Otherwise, the biofilters are mostly canisters and they are packed with bioballs or ceramic noodles that are pretty much self cleaning. A second filter is for mechanical filtration, and I don't worry about being careful with the media and any beneficial bacteria it may contain -- the good bugs are preserved in filter #1. Mech filters are selected for max throughput and ease of cleaning (and ability to use longlived media, like sponge, rather than expensive cartridges).

Of course bacteria live on all surfaces in our tanks, but they'll be densest in the places that are most hospitable: zones with lots of colonizable surface area, with constant circulation of water containing food (ammonia/nitrite) and oxygen. That makes the inside of a biofilter hard to beat for a bacterium.

Tanks could certainly be stocked lightly enough to not need filters. If you can turn them off for weeks at a time just for kicks, why have filters at all? Why not save the money? Seems kind of pointless to me...

Anyway, it's easy to show that bio-only filters are preferred sites for bacterial colonization. Just take a bio-only filter that has been running on an established, healthy tank with X number of fish. Set up a completely new tank, load it with the same volume of fish, and see what sort of ammonia/nitrite readings you get -- most likely, you'll see zero. Try that with the tank from which the biofilter has been removed, stocking it equally. You'll almost certainly see an ammonia/nitrite spike.

Finally, that idea that any filter takes as long to clean as any other is ludicrous. It take substantially longer to clean a canister filter, which you must disconnect, open up, clean media, clean housing & impeller, reconnect and reprime. I can clean three or four HOB filters in the time it takes to clean one canister.

HTH,
Jim
 
well i have a 55 tank and i just have one filter a wet dry filter 75 gallons see only one filter low water change and good water flow les expensive in long term like changing the filters cost lot for some people that have power filters :idea2: :D
 
geoffgarcia said:
I'm aware of that, but I'm wondering how the industry allows them if they are so pointless

People that buy them = more money. I think that those companies use it as another way to boost income. Simple as that.

geoffgarcia said:
cleaning a larger filter doesn't take any longer than cleaning a smaller one, they still just use 1 impellar, have one set of input/output tubers, have one main chamber, although they might have double the media storage, cleaning media is usually the fastest part of my cleaning process....

So what you are saying is that if I were to compare the time it takes to clean my Ocean Clear w/ 40 sq. ft. of media will take as long as cleaning a Magnum 350 w/ 10 or so sq. ft.? I can't figure out how you came up with that conclusion. :confused:
 
CIRSKING1 said:
well i have a 55 tank and i just have one filter a wet dry filter 75 gallons see only one filter low water change and good water flow les expensive in long term like changing the filters cost lot for some people that have power filters :idea2: :D

You may have a point, but it's hard to tell without puncuation or capitalization. Also, on this board I believe you'll find that many folks with power filters do "overfilter", make frequent water changes and typically do not replace media cartidges all too often as they seem to use an extra sponge or floss rather than a media cartidge.
 
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