All my fish died overnight!! y?

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jrwarrior23
Feb 6, 2006
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ok where do I start. I helped my gf set up a reef tank about a year ago. The tank is 110gallons, about 130 lbs of live rock, no wet dry filter ( I know I know) but I have had success in my system without a wet dry for years , plus we could not afford a wet-dry, so I went with the live rock and deep sand bed with lots of circulation methood, I did have a hang on canister filter. The tank was doing great for about 8 months, corals were thriving , the fish load was relatively heavy, we had a naso tang, yellow tang, several damsels, clownfish, a goby, lots of snails , hermit crabs, cleaner shrimp. Parametors were as followed, NItrates were always bellow 10ppm, ammonio 0, nitrites 0, pH was good but than one day out of nowhere we noticed all of the fish were breathing extremely heavy, I did the normal did a complete water test on everything at my local fish store and it came back as being PERFECT!! Temperature was fine, salinity was fine, but all the fish were breathing heavy, I did an emergency water change about 30 percent, it helped the fish stopped breathing heavy. The next morning the yellow tang and naso tang were on the ground practically dead, breathing extremely heavy, all the other fish were still alive but breathing heavy. I took the two tangs out of that tank and moved them to my reef tank at my house, the yellow tang survived the naso died. I noticed that whatever this was it affected the bigger fish more than the smaller ones, the naso was the biggest about 8 or 9 inches and it died, the yellow tang was about 6 or 7 inches. I did yet another smaller water changed about 20 percent, that seemed to help and everything went back to normal for about 1 month, I moved the yellow tang back to the tank and it was doing great yet again, another month went by and everything seemed back to normal, I got another naso about the same size as the original, everything was perfect or at least 3 months, than once again at a random time the fish started breathing heavy again, and again i did a water change and it got better the same day but AGAIN at night it went all bad the next morning EVERY single fish died. I am not a beginner I may use different methoods than some of you but I have been very successful for years, I cannot figure out what went wrong. Why at night, why does my water always test perfect , someone please help me ohhhhh I almost forgot, all of my coral have always been thriving during this entire ordeal, I also have a carpet and long tentacle anemone and they have been thriving, they do not seem to be affected what so ever, im very confused. The tank looks great but we have no fish, what should I do next? Please help.
 
How do you oxygenate the tank? Do you have a lot of plant matter in the tank? It sounds like they starve of oxygen. There is less of it at knight usually.
 
My ogirinal theory was lack of oxygen somehow especially because the bigger fish were affected more so than the smaller ones. The tanks dimensions are different than standar it is very tall , I run two hydro koralias but they did seem to clog easily , I also had a major algae bloom at the time, lots of macro and hair algae.
 
I have to agree with your first theory. I run a skimmer to oxygenate my tank. Maybe an air-stone can help eliminate the problem? plant matter produces oxygen during the day, but does the opposite during the night (I am an ex-planted tank guy). That can cause large PH swings too.
 
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that sounds a lot like lack of oxygen, you should invest in airstones...
 
No worries on the lack of a wet/dry... I actually don't know anyone locally that still uses one on a reef tank.

Can you list the dimensions of the tank?

From your description of the tank being taller than a standard one of its size, I'm guessing it has sacrificed overall footprint (and surface area on top of the water).

If you had a good amount of macro algae and hair algae growing, it will definitely respire at night like mentioned above, potentially causing big swings in CO2 / O2 / pH.

The problem could also be related to an increase in the amount of CO2 in the air around the tank. If the tank is lacking adequate surface agitation and there's more CO2 in the air in the room where the tank is, it wouldn't be hard at all to reach dangerously low O2 levels in your tank, especially having larger fish.

As for your water testing out fine... That's nothing too unusual. There's far more going on in the water than can be tested for by hobby level test kits. Even scooping out some water and pouring it into another container to take to the LFS to test can alter the CO2 / O2 / pH in the water sample. Any shaking on the way to the LFS can easily do the same thing.
 
^agreed.
 
sounds like a 110x 48x18x30 sound about right?

had the quiet 1 6000 in my fuge break a shaft..killing the flow.
with 3 powerheads in the main tank(Koralia4's) I didn't have a problem and next day the new pump.. over nite the power went out.. it didn't take long and they were gasping
luckily the new pump arrived hooked it up immediately and got it up and running... saved the fish
 
I was going to point to surface aggitation as well. And I would think that the bigger fish would be ther first to go if there was a lack of oxygen.
A skimmer and.or a sump/fuge would certainly help this out. as well as simply pointing the power heads up to get more surface aggitation. I like to see big waves to all the corners of the tank.
 
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