amazon biotope

the daily water changes isn't a problem. the fact of only keeping two fish species is what gets me. if it is not a good idea to keep just two more species of fish then why would the book that i have show like 6 discus in a 56 gallon tank with several species of tetras,2 angels, a blue panaque, a emeral catfish, and several hatchetfish and say it is ok?
i am not getting the angels any more look at the revised list i posted earlier
 
The book and picture is wrong. They live in some weird world where there are no limits. But here, there are. And its not like it just applies to you, and we are pikeing on you. Its applies to everyone, and most of use here choose to follow it. (Sorry it that sounds mean, bit I cant think its too late here)
 
oh i don't feel picked on i mean i was just following what info i had. that is why i really brought down the number of fish from the first time because everyone here was sayin that is was too much fish. i still fthink that the whole discus thing is a little over exggerated because my grandpa use to keep discus and have many other fish with them in a 55 gallon and he said they were fine and ate well. I know you cant base everything off of one instance but i can do my best. i am trying to use more peaceful fish that aren't that agrressive at eating. no offense to your philosophy. you probably know way more than me anyway but i guess i am just looking for a compromise with you guys.
 
He, thats the problem with fish. Theres a right and a wrong. And sometimes theres a right and wrong. But the problem is that this catogory is a hard thing to come to. Because people want more, but cant really have it. I would like to see what Holly things before I go on. So Holly, on the first page bottom posts. What do you think? I think Im off to bed now, but Il be back tom morning.
 
completely true and i agree that i may want more but can't have what i want but i am really trying to compromise but i just can't see a biotope with just one or two species of fish.
 
Basically you have two option... go with a diverse aquarium.. angels, tetras, hatchets, otos, and cories and have an easy maintenance schedule and happy fish, or you can go with discus and just get discus with some cories and otos and have a hell of a maintenance schedule that u wont keep up with. Discus aren't running rampant all over the Amazon... you can have a realistic biotope without discus. Angels are large beautiful fish. If you want something even more beautiful, rare, and harder to keep try Altium angels.
 
I'm guessing that Unfamous is completely aware of the difficulty in keeping discs and has said that he's up to it....

Unfamous...I say give it a shot. But I would caution that books don't always get it right. A book that I recently got said to put 10 rams together in a medium size tank...and I KNOW that's a BAD idea...because I have rams. They also said to put like a zillion baby oscars in a tank and said NOTHING about how large they get. Some books just don't have a clue..this one was more interested in the "look" of the tank...(and they were beautiful tanks)...than they were interested in the "health" of the tank. But I have never read the book you mentioned.

It's probably a better idea to listen to those who are familiar with the fish and have raised and bred them successfully. I agree that what you hear isn't always so for everyone. I have read and been told how difficult rams are to keep and breed and I haven't found that to be so at all, for me.l..but that just may be the quality and parameters of my water and I just may have gotten lucky in getting some good quality locally raised stock.

Seems you have your heart set on this..it's good you removed the angel. Discus are expensive fish...so I think maybe having another tank ready to go in case it doesn't work out, so that you can put some of the other fish in that if you have to remove any. Four discus are probably the limit for that size tank...even if nothing else is in there with them. I think rams are very good tank mates for discus.....but I don't know how the rams will take to the cories. I tried cories with my rams and they despise them...I had to take the cories out or they would have been harrassed to death. Yet my rams don't bother anyone else. Otos are good too, because nobody ever sees them...lol...including the fish that are in there with em. I'm not sure how the tetras will do, but geesh...try them out...you can always remove them if it doesn't work.

Good luck on your endeavor UnF...and share a pic and tell us about the results when you get it all set up.....and NO...."I told you so" from anyone if it doesn't pan out....that wouldn't be nice ! ;)
 
well thank you Emg for your support in my attempt, i really appreciat it and don't worry when the tank is all set up i'll post some pics and let you guys know how it is going. thanx to everyone else as well even though you guys might have told me info that i didn't like it was helpful in some way. well now that is settled should i reduce the number of tetras from 10 to 6? and how should i introduce the fish? which fish should be put in first? should i use any of the fish i plan on getting for the cycling process?
 
Great Idea

hey unfamous I'm not an expert on discus or anything but I think your idea is great I'm just picturing it in my mind You probably no but make sure you have proper ph and all that for the discus and if I were you I would quarentine the other fish just to be safe you don't want to be flushing a 50.00 fish down the drain.
hope it works out great
 
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