Angels possible fin rot

jackie

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Can anyone help please.

I have four angels in my tank. I noticed yesterday they were chasing each other around and being aggressive towards each other, today I have noticed one of the angels has the spines on the bottom fin showing, all the other fins look fine and I wonder if this could be caused by nipping or could it be fin rot.
We do a 10% water change fortnightly and use bacteria tablets each time the water is changed. Any help greatly appreciated.
Jackie

Just tested water

Nitrate 5
Amonia 1.2
PH 7.5
Nitrite 0.1
 
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In a "normal" established tank, ammonia and nitrItes should both test out at zero or darned close to it. Thus if your tests are correct, something is going on with the nitrification process in your tank.

So, a few questions to help us help you:

What kind of filtration are you using?
How long has the tank (and the filter) been set up?
How often do you clean/replace your filter media?
What kind of dechlorinator or dechloraminator do you use? (Also, does your local water company use chlorine or chloramines to treat the water?)
What other fish are in the tank and how large is is?

In the meantime, you need to do a couple of large water changes (30%+), one a day for the next few days, and use a dechlorinator or dechloraminator (as appropriate). The bacteria tablets are not particularly useful, although if you are having nitrification problems some used media or gravel from another established tank will help jump start your process.
 
Right, firstly we are in the UK and I will probably use all the wronge terms for these answers so apologies in advance, but we are very new to this, we used to keep fish 20 years ago but things have changed drastically since then.

>It is a box filter (long black box in corner of tank) tank and filter made by juwel
>the tank has been set up for approximately 2 months
>we change the white filters every week and the carbon six weekly, the other filters are not recommended to be changed yet by manufacturer
>pass - what are these?
>We are in a very hard water area and the water sometimes smells strongly of chlorine
>we have lemon tetras(19), congo tetras(6), corydoras(5) and leopard loaches(2) angels (4)
>the tank is 180 ltr

We do a 10% water change fortnightly and have carried out a 25% change over the weekend.

Thanks for any help you can give
 
If I read your response correctly, you asked what I was referring to when I talked about dechlorinators and dechloraminators. These are products to add to your tapwater that will neutralize the chlorine or chloramine that your local water company uses to kill bacteria in the water as they are pumping it into your home. I do not know how it works over there, but over here you can call your local water supplier and find out which one they use to treat your water. You should do this because the chlorine and chloramine are both extremely bad for your fish, and because it takes different chemical products to neutralize each. And you definitely should be using these products. They are not expensive, and are available from almost all pet stores and on-line sources.

Having said that, it would seem that your problem may be coming from a combination of not treating the water properly, and the way you are filtering. If I understand your reply on the filtration question, it sounds as if you are using an internal box filter with floss and carbon. If this is the case, first you should be rinsing the floss out in tank water instead of changing it, as it contains most of the nitrifying bacteria that you need (please, tell me it's just some sort of nylon foam and not spun glass like they used to use many years ago). Second, however, that type of filter is not efficient enough for the relatively heavy bioload you have in that tank; you should probably look at adding a hang on the back filter (an Aquaclear 300 by Hagen with a couple of sponges will do quite nicely), to provide backup filtration and keep your nitrogen cycle going strong when you do find it necessary to replace your filter floss in the internal filter (it will get too clogged to rinse after a month or two, even if you are cleaning it as I mentioned above).

It also doesn't sound like you have a reference book handy that provides you with the basics on aquarium maintenance, etc. There are a number of good ones out there, none of which are very expensive, so I suggest you do a little research and get one from Tetra or Dupla or whoever sells them in Great Britain. Amazon.com should have a good selection.

I would get the water treatment thing figured out, and do 35% or 30% water changes every day or other day for the next couple of weeks, because the water parameters you mentioned above were definitely unhealthy for fish and could lead to gill burn, bacterial or viral infection, and other health problems down the road if you don't resolve them quickly.

Good luck.
 
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