Another great Pit Bull article.

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labont865

This is drako, a friend of a friend
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Wow, that was a very well written letter that should hopefully open the eyes of a lot of people. :clap:
 
i understand what you are saying. we live in a small town where children can go throughout town to play. some people moved in and they have at 1 house 12 pitbulls that arent really pets. they fight with each other all the time. there is another house..*same family that have 4 or 5 pit bulls about a block away. and now right next door to me , yes same family again, has moved in there and they have 1. i am very nervous for my children because they dont have it on chain. it is out in the front yard. although it seems well behaved, i dont trust it because i dont want to have to find out the hard way in what can set them off. i understand it is not necessarily the breed, but how they are taken care of, can affect there behavior. but this is what makes me nervous because i dont know how they are taken care of. i know i may seem judgemental but like i said it only takes one incident to make someones world/life change. i personally think they should be kept out of town. there are some towns around here that have an ordinance against ownership of them. i wish we had one here to tell you the truth. i know any dog can cause harm or attack. but most of the time the injuries sustained are minor compared to pit bull attacks. hope to not offend anyone....but i may not be the only one who feels this way. i do think they are a good looking breed and suppose they are put in a bad class, but i like to think of my childrens safety especially with like, what, around 15 or so pits in this small town....to me that is ridiculous.
 
tankfan said:
i understand what you are saying. we live in a small town where children can go throughout town to play. some people moved in and they have at 1 house 12 pitbulls that arent really pets. they fight with each other all the time. there is another house..*same family that have 4 or 5 pit bulls about a block away. and now right next door to me , yes same family again, has moved in there and they have 1. i am very nervous for my children because they dont have it on chain. it is out in the front yard. although it seems well behaved, i dont trust it because i dont want to have to find out the hard way in what can set them off. i understand it is not necessarily the breed, but how they are taken care of, can affect there behavior. but this is what makes me nervous because i dont know how they are taken care of. i know i may seem judgemental but like i said it only takes one incident to make someones world/life change. i personally think they should be kept out of town. there are some towns around here that have an ordinance against ownership of them. i wish we had one here to tell you the truth. i know any dog can cause harm or attack. but most of the time the injuries sustained are minor compared to pit bull attacks. hope to not offend anyone....but i may not be the only one who feels this way. i do think they are a good looking breed and suppose they are put in a bad class, but i like to think of my childrens safety especially with like, what, around 15 or so pits in this small town....to me that is ridiculous.
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My advice is to educate yourself on the breed. Also to intorduce yourself to your neibour and meet the dog and find out if it is friendly. There is no town that has the right to have an ordinance to keep a specific breed out of it though many do put these ordinances. Nobody has this right. I understand you want to protect your children and I commend you for it. BUT honestly it is your responsibility to do so. Build a fence around your yard and tell them they cant go outside the fence if the dog is outside, for example. You have no more right to force them to not own that dog or to leave your town then they have to do the same to you.
Pit Bulls account for less than 2% of all annual dog attacks. They have only been the cause of 4 deaths in the past 15 years. To put this into perspective, Golden retrievers account for 6% of annual dog attacks, JRTs account for 8%, and cocker spaniels account for 7%. Shih tzus have killed 5 people in the past 10 years. Why arent these dogs banned?

Last year there were well over 4.5 million dog attacks 7 fatal, and only 1.43% of them were said to be by pit bulls. Only 4 ever made it to INTERNATIONAL news and all were "Pit Bull" attacks. 2 of which werent even Pit Bulls but breeds that look similar IE: Staffordshire Terrier and an American bull dog. 2 of these attacks were fatal one was a pit bull the other was the staffordshire terrier. What about the other 5 fatal attacks that were caused by dogs ranging from a Dalmation to a pomeranian? What about the other attacks that never made it to the news? What about the other attacks that were wrongfully published as Pit Bull attacks? One of which the dog was actually a Boston Terrier another was a bloody Pug! The media builds these dogs up because they know they would never get away with blaming any other breed. Pits have a bad rep that they do not deserve. They are not naturally a human aggressive animal. They were desinged for bull baiting and thus were bred to be aggressive towards animals, but to be extremely loyal and obediant to their owners. If they are taught to be aggressive towards people by their owner they will be because they are only being the loyal obedient dog they are and doing what they have essentially been told to do by their owner. The only thing that should be done is you the human should have to be licensed to own them and "Backyard Breeders" Should be illegalized.
 
labont865 said:
My advice is to educate yourself on the breed. Also to intorduce yourself to your neibour and meet the dog and find out if it is friendly. There is no town that has the right to have an ordinance to keep a specific breed out of it though many do put these ordinances. Nobody has this right. I understand you want to protect your children and I commend you for it. BUT honestly it is your responsibility to do so. Build a fence around your yard and tell them they cant go outside the fence if the dog is outside, for example. You have no more right to force them to not own that dog or to leave your town then they have to do the same to you.
Pit Bulls account for less than 2% of all annual dog attacks. They have only been the cause of 4 deaths in the past 15 years. To put this into perspective, Golden retrievers account for 6% of annual dog attacks, JRTs account for 8%, and cocker spaniels account for 7%. Shih tzus have killed 5 people in the past 10 years. Why arent these dogs banned?

Last year there were well over 4.5 million dog attacks 7 fatal, and only 1.43% of them were said to be by pit bulls. Only 4 ever made it to INTERNATIONAL news and all were "Pit Bull" attacks. 2 of which werent even Pit Bulls but breeds that look similar IE: Staffordshire Terrier and an American bull dog. 2 of these attacks were fatal one was a pit bull the other was the staffordshire terrier. What about the other 5 fatal attacks that were caused by dogs ranging from a Dalmation to a pomeranian? What about the other attacks that never made it to the news? What about the other attacks that were wrongfully published as Pit Bull attacks? One of which the dog was actually a Boston Terrier another was a bloody Pug! The media builds these dogs up because they know they would never get away with blaming any other breed. Pits have a bad rep that they do not deserve. They are not naturally a human aggressive animal. They were desinged for bull baiting and thus were bred to be aggressive towards animals, but to be extremely loyal and obediant to their owners. If they are taught to be aggressive towards people by their owner they will be because they are only being the loyal obedient dog they are and doing what they have essentially been told to do by their owner. The only thing that should be done is you the human should have to be licensed to own them and "Backyard Breeders" Should be illegalized.
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here here!! :bowing: :thm: :clap: I can understand you want to protect your kids, but think about it. if there was 15 black people in your town, and one of them started walking around his yard with a knife on occasion, would you want to ban all black people from your town!?! learn about the individual dog and breed, and then judge.
 
My best companion is an AMSTAFF/Pointer mix. She is a buxom gal, would give Jane Russell a run for her money--broad chest. It took 5 years for us to find each other--she'd been abandoned and ran streets for a year, at an animal shelter for 2--they thought she was so awesome they couldn't put her down; when that limit was up they found a private adoption agency, who had her another 2 years.

She is the most well-mannered, dignified, unprovokeable canine I have ever known. I just spent (well, on payments) one thousand dollars to have a fracture in her upper front leg/shoulder area screwed and pinned after a break--at 8, she does not deserve to lose her life due to a broken leg. (And I thought my father was going to have a stroke!!) She exhibits physical characteristics of both the bull terrier and pointer--in fact, I've seen her go on point. Faithful, protective but accepts my friends, doesn't bother the horses or cattle on the farm, kind of hangs out with the two male dogs (Chow and Golden Ret) since she kinda acts like a boy. She was probably never adopted before due to her resemblance to a pit (and being adult). I've had students who raised fighting pit bulls--they look not only for well built blood lines, but also aggressive. And at one point I lived next door to a dude who raised fighters--way back, in the woods behind the house. Got busted, too. Did some time.
FACTORS: bloodlines, how they are raised, and how they are treated throughout their lives. If they have bad blood, can't change it. Evil is as evil does. Seeing any large dog I don't know in my neighborhood--if the neighbors ARE approachable, talking's the best way to go. Sometimes they are very defensive and/or aggressive--gun totin', hard drinkin' meanies--call the cops if dogs are loose.
 
i guess im just bein silly to have an opinion or wanting to be cautious about the situation that has come up. i didnt say i hated them. i just said that i am concerned because i dont know how it was treated or if it is friendly. and yes i will approach the neighbors and ask them to please put it on a chain when it is out in the yard. that IS a town ordinance for all dogs here no matter what breed. and i dont know what the guy the brought race into the mix for..but thats something entirely different and has no reason to be brought up. i am not predjudice or hateful myself. like i said i dont hate these dogs...im just worried because i dont know how they are taken care of...that was all. im sure they are great pets to those that know how to care and treat them. but how is one to know how truly they are taken care of.
a friend of mine a long time ago was responsible for feeding 8 pit bulls on a farm. He said that they werent bad or mean....except one. he said it took him like 3-4 weeks before he could even get into chain reach of this mean one. now in saying that, i will tell you that they got this particular pitbull as a retired fighter from florida. so that would explain the aggression there, right? now for the owner.....this owner as i was told by the friend who went and fed these dogs....would light large explosives and throw it into the pen and the pitbull would pick it up and it would explode right in its mouth!! Unbeleivable and stupid dont you think? I do. after that 1 exploded, he would throw in another 1 and the dog would pick it up again and it would explode! blood coming out of its mouth and everything. if iwouldve been there i wouldve had the thought of sticking one of those explosives YOU KNOW WHERE and see how he liked it.

i told this story in MY defense of being concerned as how they are taken care of. please dont make me out to be prejudice or anti pitbull. i know it sounds like it by what i am writing. i am just writing as a concerened parent.
like i said before i think they are beautiful and im sure they are loyal and protective. its HOW protective will this dog be? that worries me too. will he think that MY yard is part of his territory? these are just concerns i have...not trying to be the bad guy here.
 
Well, I can't say I agree with the percentages given for the Pit Bull attacks. A quick search showed that although they weren't the main source of dog attacks. They did account for at least 20% of any given amount of dog attacks in a particular area. This shows that banning that particular breed won't reduce dog attacks significantly. But, it does show that they are an aggressive dog species that may be more prone to attacks than others. Also, attacks on the owner were less than 1%. This is significant in the sense that the dog may be loyal and calm to the owner. But, not so much to other people.

I guess what I am saying is that banning may not be a way to fix the problem of dog attacks. But, caution should be taken around pitbulls because they MAY be more prone to aggresion twoards strangers than other dogs.

And remember I said MAY be prone.
 
fishcatch22 said:
here here!! :bowing: :thm: :clap: I can understand you want to protect your kids, but think about it. if there was 15 black people in your town, and one of them started walking around his yard with a knife on occasion, would you want to ban all black people from your town!?! learn about the individual dog and breed, and then judge.
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Nonsense, why should you have to learn about someone elses pet! keep it in the back yard or chain it up, no one should frear for thier kids playing in the street. I have a german sheppard hes soft as anything but i would not leave him to his own devices in the front yard when there are kids about!
 
DansMarineTank said:
Nonsense, why should you have to learn about someone elses pet! keep it in the back yard or chain it up, no one should frear for thier kids playing in the street. I have a german sheppard hes soft as anything but i would not leave him to his own devices in the front yard when there are kids about!
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Totally not what I was trying to say. I was merely saying that we have no right to ban the dogs. All my dogs are kept in a 9 foot fenced area. I agree that the owner should keep the dog contained in some way. I was merely pointing out a way to help the situation.

I have to take off to work but will post a little later in detail about what I meant and some responses to your posts.
 
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