I thought that dalmations were responsible for more bites than any other dog. The JA next door has 15 pitbulls in an area of 1/2 mill houses. They are working on law right now to make a maxium amount of dogs. whatever as long as one does not come in my yard he gets a bullet b4 he goes down the street and bites another little girl. there might be a good pitbull out there, i have never seen one. I told the guy first i shoot the dog then i punch him
Another great Pit Bull article.
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Here are some of the sites some of ym references and stats come from.
stats:
www.pitbullregistry.com
www.atts.org
references:
www.pbrc.net
www.realpitbull.com
www.badrap.org
www.loveabull.org
www.pitprintsrescue.com
direct links:
www.realpitbull.com/myths.html
www.pbrc.net/petbull/sadreality.html
www.members.aol.com/bstofshw/fatcs.html
www.thedogplace.com/hotnews/av6.asp
NCcoastal: Jack russel terriers are responsible for te most bites. Dalmations are in the top 10.
I agree 15 dogs in one home is too much unless you are a breeder or a kennel facility with the proper setup.
For you to say if one comes in your yard your gonna shoot it makes me think of either a redneck,or white trash, or 12 year old kid trying to sound cool.
If the dog comes in your yard yell at it and tell it to leave. If it comes in your yard and attacks somebody or something then yes shoot the bloody thing if thats what you feel needs to be done. This goes for all dogs, not just pit bulls.
You obviously are quite un-educated about pit bulls or you would be embarrased you even wrote that post.
stats:
www.pitbullregistry.com
www.atts.org
references:
www.pbrc.net
www.realpitbull.com
www.badrap.org
www.loveabull.org
www.pitprintsrescue.com
direct links:
www.realpitbull.com/myths.html
www.pbrc.net/petbull/sadreality.html
www.members.aol.com/bstofshw/fatcs.html
www.thedogplace.com/hotnews/av6.asp
NCcoastal: Jack russel terriers are responsible for te most bites. Dalmations are in the top 10.
I agree 15 dogs in one home is too much unless you are a breeder or a kennel facility with the proper setup.
For you to say if one comes in your yard your gonna shoot it makes me think of either a redneck,or white trash, or 12 year old kid trying to sound cool.
If the dog comes in your yard yell at it and tell it to leave. If it comes in your yard and attacks somebody or something then yes shoot the bloody thing if thats what you feel needs to be done. This goes for all dogs, not just pit bulls.
You obviously are quite un-educated about pit bulls or you would be embarrased you even wrote that post.
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well i can tell you right now i not 12 or white trash/redneck. keep your insults to yourself. like this the last time i got my son in the house and just watch the dog come to my door and bark grown and bite at the door. I called animal control b4 they get dog he bit a little girl down the street a fe times. You Call them what you want i will always call them target practice. Maybe you hAVE SOME nice pitbulls happy for you. move next door to me and let yours run out the yard. with pit bulls around here the whole town is shoot first ask questions later. That is the bad rap they have and it will probally never change. sorry the 1 million bad pitbulls out there ruin it for your 5 nice ones. That does not give you the right to slander me.
LOL wait tilll it bites then shoot. should i wait for someone robbing me to stab/shoot me b4 I defend myself.
LOL wait tilll it bites then shoot. should i wait for someone robbing me to stab/shoot me b4 I defend myself.
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well this is a very good topic/discussion. no winners or losers here. i can tell you i am not or will be responsible in any way if my child was attacked. because the way i see it, if you own one of the pitbull, rott, sheperd, or any dobe breed you should know the precautions that should be taken as these are the dogs that most people worry about. if you dont take them as its owner, then you are the ONLY one responsible. the only stat i can give is that if my child was attacked....the pit or any dog for that matter would be 100% destroyed.
tankfan said:
I agree. The owner should be taking the right precautions, but in the case that they dont like yours, you need to take the action of protecting your children that is all I am saying. You are responsinble for protecting your children, but you are not responsible for the dogs or the dogs owners actions. But as being the responsible parent you must do what is needed and liek a said before, instead of causing a feud between you and the owner by calling the cops or something try getting to know them and the dog to prevent the whole situation in the first place. Does this only make sence to me?
NCcoatal- I didnt call you white trash or a redneck. I said it made me think of white trash and rednecks. That was in no way calling you one. Or it wasnt meant to be anyway.
The only thing I said that I meant to be taken directyl by you is that you are clearly not at all educated about pit bulls. The only thing you seem to know is what you hear from other pit haters. Like I said I have had over 200 pits come through my home and only 2 have ever bitten somebody and both were in defence of their families and the courts deemed the bites as un-criminal and un-punishable. That is less than a 1% bite ratio. That doesnt sound to me like they are crazy monsters.
I am sorry to hear that your neighbour has poorly trained dogs and is not a responsible owner. But this isnt the dogs fault. What you should do is call the ASPCA or track down an animal rescue, NOT animal control and tell them the situation. They will go to the house and if they deem the owner unfit or the living conditions un-satisfactory they will take the dogs and get them to proper homes where they can be properly cared for.
About shooting them Yes I strongly believe that nothing should be shot until it is necessary, whether it is a person or dog. If it enters your yard it doesnt mean it is there to hurt you.
If a frickin cow came into your yard would you shoot it just cause its there? No, the only reason you are saying you would shoot the dog is because it is a pit bull and you automatically think they are bad animals and you are biased and un-educated about them.
labont865 said:
I didn't say that the APBT wasn't recognized. I said the pit bull was not a breed. Pit bulls refer to a large number of different dogs, including Am Staffs and others. You actually corroborate my point when you list the breakdown of all of the dogs classified as pitbulls re. the biting statistics.
Anyway, I agree with many of your points about parents and responsibility; but if a dog is not tied up and could leave the property and hurt any other dog or child on the street, then the dog owner is 100% liable. That is the case in tankfan's situation, it is not hypothetical.
To clarify about Ontario: Some municipalities have more stringent BSL regulations than the provincial bill. London, I believe, is one city that may have banned ownership, and this was the case before Ontario law took effect- so it overrides the provincial law in their jurisdiction. The provincial bsl has not changed so far as I know. Spay/neuter, no new puppies (they are unfortunately euthanized if found), muzzled in public, no off leash.
labont865 said:
No I'm not.
The Pit Bull, as I stated, is not a recognized breed. The APBT is not recognized either by the American Kennel Club or the Canadian Kennel Club (although they are registerable by other less reputable clubs). The Am Staff is a recognized breed by the AKC.
From a pro pit website:
" "Pit bull" is not a breed, but a "type" that encompasses several registered breeds and crossbreeds. Therefore, statistics that claim "Pit bulls" are responsible for some percentage of attacks are lumping many separate breeds together, then comparing that to other dogs that are counted as individual breeds. " (http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/legislation.php)
labont865 Firstly the pictures of your dogs are beautifull they look like very healthy well raised dogs, i have no doubt that you have raised yours so that they are friendly and non agressive given your passion for the breed and i can understand where you are comming from.
however, being a dog owner myself, i can still say i would be somewhat, not scared, but uneasy to see a pit bull off its leash in the park when kids were around, the same as i would if i saw a dobermen or a rotwieler (spelling) however being a German Shepherd owner i would feel comfortable seeing a GSD I think thats could be where your comming from a little.
I also would like to thank you for the way you've handled this debate i dont think you have been harsh with anyone
however, being a dog owner myself, i can still say i would be somewhat, not scared, but uneasy to see a pit bull off its leash in the park when kids were around, the same as i would if i saw a dobermen or a rotwieler (spelling) however being a German Shepherd owner i would feel comfortable seeing a GSD I think thats could be where your comming from a little.
I also would like to thank you for the way you've handled this debate i dont think you have been harsh with anyone
Here is the reality folks. Any dog can bite. Any breed can bite. As far as my son goes, any dog that is not restrained is a threat. I don't trust any dog regardless of breed or size. Personally, having worked in an animal shelter and my main area was the large dogs, I am not afraid of them. But, I take no chances when it comes to my son. I treat all breeds the same. Each dog has it's own history and therefore has it's own personality. There is probably very few if no breeds that do not have at least one confirmed bite. It is not the breeds, but the owners. The main reason the pit breed has a bad rap is that criminals and unethical people decide they like the large chested, large head and mean look of them. If you are afraid of the breed, educate yourself. Havent any of you seen the Dog Whisperer?
