Another great Pit Bull article.

NC you must get really bored...
 
well had to long weeks of work and stuff b4 the few days off b4 they box me and ship me overseas. just wanted to bs with some ppl.
 
ship you off again?? military?
 
labont865 said:
N.A.- You are right, unfortunately the discrimination has spread there as well. The main reasoning is because of the abilities of the dogs, not so much for the number of attacks. They did the same thing with dobbies and a few other species back in the day too, yet now alot of these sepcies are perfectly fine to have and insurance doesnt care. Its crap.
A lot of the breeds have "improved" over the years in response to this type of pressure. Sadly, to gain this result, some foreign breeders (who produce for the U.S. market) started ruthless culling of any dobie or (insert breed type that is focus of hysteria du jour) type dog that exhibited the least aggressive behavior as a young pup. It's one reason why Rotties of Norwegian bloodline are prized for their much more even temperament.

To the insurance underwriter, the dog's capability to achieve a level of damage is key. Pits may have numerically fewer total attacks (just the raw number; not incident per unit number of animals per annum), but the result of each attack is almost always more gruesome than with other breeds, and usually yields an astronomically higher lawsuit payout. As noted by others on this forum, that is fodder for journalists and, in the event of a fatality, easy game for a 2nd degree u/i murder conviction against the owner (the first one of note was the "Rottweiler murder trial" in Delaware, and this type of legal action has gained steam across the U.S.A. like a runaway locomotive...as I said before, what's next in court? Dachshunds?).

A co-worker of mine raised pit bulls for a few years when he grew up on a farm. He did not immediately cull young aggressive pits (he didn't even think of this as an option), but separated the more aggressive pups in a brood and tried different training regimens. None of these were successful, and nobody with an ideal home for these dogs wanted them (a real Catch-22...these more aggresive AMPBT dogs needed a good home, but these same potential owners didn't want the aggressive ones from a litter). In his case, these dogs would attack and disfigure or kill other farm animals like goats and even larger livestock. He ended up having to put down about 16 of his pits before he left home for college and had to stop breeding them. The last pit he put down (before getting out of the breeding business entirely) simply ambled over to a grazing cow, lunged for and clamped onto its throat, and brought it down for keeps. It was totally unexpected; the dog was more aggressive than its littermates, but he never could have predicted that particular time bomb blowing up like that (exactly the type of incident insurers forcus on). Still, over the span of a few years he produced a small number of pretty good dogs.

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I wish those of you that think all Pits are dog agressive could have been in Pekin Illinois on sunday. I went to a pit bull association get together at the park and I counted 55 pits, although I couldnt see them all. They were all in a small area of the park. There were kiddie pools for them to cool off in, children running around, puppies playing. Every dog there was a pit or pit mix. I was there for over an hour and there was NO AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR. Not one fight. They were going to give out awards for obedience and cart pulling as well as a few other things, but I left before they did it. Even the news crews came out. It was a sight to see thats for sure.
 
Wasn't that the place where a bunch of pit bulls got loose and killed a bunch of people. It was right at the end...when you left... ;)
 
You are both awful...yes, right after the news crews left, the dogs donned space suits, stood upright, and clearly announced in Queen's English that they'd been observing us for centuries, and that now they had no choice but to use thermostellar devices to destroy our planet for the common good of the rest of the inhabited universe.

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