are angels and discus compatible?

i have a angel and a discus in the same tank, they hang around together but also quarrel now and then, discus being the winner of course.
but has mentioned they both live together in the wild, so yes they are compatable. ive also read on the internet that you shouldnt mix them together due to the fact of disease transfer.

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I don't think the dimensions of your tank allow for that stocking. If it was a long...72 inches by whatever, it would be better. There will not be enough swimming room for that many large fish. I keep angels and discus together without an issue. The angels wii definitely out compete the discus for food. I feed the angels at one end...then while they are busy being little piggies I feed my discus at the other end. I don't think I woud do more than 5-6 discus and 3-4 angels in that tank. It's the dimensions...not the volume that make it a little awkward for large fish. Just my 2 cents.
 
I have raised/bred many many Discus in much higher nitrate than posted above. Although lower is better, I dont recall any drawbacks from my experiences thus dont go crazy trying to lower high NO3 in one wc. Do so in small but frequent wc.

Frequency and amount of wc changes should be determined by each tanks parameters and types/amt of food given. No one set rule, imo, since no tanks are alike!
 
drgnfrc13 said:
I strongly disagree. That tank is not large enough for 13-19 large fish. For one thing, discus do best when kept in water that is below 15-20ppm in nitrates, which will be very difficult to achieve once the fish reach their adult sizes. And in addition to the, the tank doesn't provide an adequate ammount of swimming space for that many fish.


There is no such thing as a good rule of thumb for fishkeeping. ;)

Edit: And also, unless the tank is going to be pretty heavily planted, I would change more like 40-50% of the water per week (or you could do what I do on my 220 and just change 25% twice weekly).
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There are indeed very good rules of thumb in fishkeeping and probably every other human endeavor. The trick is being able to tell a good one from a bad one. Here's a little help! The problem with most rules of thumb is that they're far too general to apply to all cases. Example, "one inch of fish per gal of water"
The reasons this one falls flat is that "an inch of fish" is much too vague a term and isn't the proper criteria for computing carrying capacity in the first place. Biomass is actually the criteria we want. A 4" example of a species is more likely to weigh 40 x what a 1" example weighs than 4 x. And a 2" Discus will weigh at least 20 x what a 2" Kuhlii Loach weighs. But if your parameters are specific enough, ie "1" of fish that max out at less than 2" total length per gal", or more specifically in this case "Adult Discus" rules of thumb can work out very nicely.
 
Cerianthus said:
Switching from Reef to F/W? I almost died when took my reef tanks down.

Anyway, rise the tank well.

I dont see any major problem keeping both together in 200G tank. Only problem I see is reaching bottom of the tank to anchor live plants unless you have long arm. That is if you are going that route.

Depending on the temp you decide to keep, you may even have SA dwarf cichlids and many varieties of corys as well.

Start off with discus then add angels, giving shy discus to settle before angels as you posted.

I will leave the stocking # to their keepers.

Good Luck! Any photos of reef set up?
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SubRosa said:
There are indeed very good rules of thumb in fishkeeping and probably every other human endeavor. The trick is being able to tell a good one from a bad one. Here's a little help! The problem with most rules of thumb is that they're far too general to apply to all cases. Example, "one inch of fish per gal of water"
The reasons this one falls flat is that "an inch of fish" is much too vague a term and isn't the proper criteria for computing carrying capacity in the first place. Biomass is actually the criteria we want. A 4" example of a species is more likely to weigh 40 x what a 1" example weighs than 4 x. And a 2" Discus will weigh at least 20 x what a 2" Kuhlii Loach weighs. But if your parameters are specific enough, ie "1" of fish that max out at less than 2" total length per gal", or more specifically in this case "Adult Discus" rules of thumb can work out very nicely.
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Okay, then let's take your discus rule of thumb as an example. Can I keep one adult discus (8" long x 9" high) in a 10 gallon aquarium?

There are always exceptions to every rule, which, imo, makes rules useless in a situation like this. The best rule for any fishkeeping situation is: use your best judgement, and if you are not confident in your own judgement (due to inexperience), then ask others who have experience with it.
 
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Of course not because Discus are social fish, and another very good rule of thumb with Discus is to keep them in groups of at least 6, therefore you would want at the minimum a 60 gal tank to keep Discus, although very good breeder I know keeps pairs in 29s and even 20Hs for smaller individuals.And honestly now, how many 8" Discus have you seen? They're as common as 7' humans ime.
 
And I must ask! Is there an exception to the rule that there's an exception to every rule?
 
SubRosa said:
And I must ask! Is there an exception to the rule that there's an exception to every rule?
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lol i think about that everytime i say it but yes there is exceptions to that rule as well like ever person will die sometime there is no beating death.

On another note you 2 should put your arguement aside and help the OP out and not start going back and forth with your personal views. Sometimes people see this in a negative light and it discourages new comers from coming back. Lets keep it possitive.


My opinion on this is I would do 7 discus and 5 angel fish. But then I like odd numbers. I would see how they do if they get along then cool if they dont then at least your numbers wont be that high and either the angels or discus could be rehomed.
 
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