Are Water Changes Actually Necessary?

Do you change your water?

  • No

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Not unless conditions require it (like high nitrates)

    Votes: 60 13.8%
  • Yes, I do it on a specific timeline (daily, weekly, whatever)

    Votes: 358 82.3%
  • Undecided / Other

    Votes: 14 3.2%

  • Total voters
    435
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It's possible that you had a mini-cycle from changing your filter cartridge.

Instructions from the maker of my filter are similar to yours. I've found that this recommendation isn't in my fish's best interest. Now I just rinse it occasionally, and no further problems.
 
I didn't completely change the filter media, there is something in my filter called bio material or something like that which you don't change when you change the cartridge so that you don't deplete the bacteria and I definitely will ask her that but so far not doing the weekly water changes hasn't harmed my tank so I guess she knew something about it.
 
I was speaking with a lady who has 6 goldfish/koi ponds, a 21 year old convict cichlid who is HUGE, several saltwater tanks, and has done a degree in biology and she told me that doing a water change weekly can often deplete the "good" stuff in the water and though most of the beneficial bacteria grow on the surfaces inside the tank there is something beneficial in the water as well and that instead of doing weekly changes I should reduce it down to 30 percent monthly. It was almost a month ago now that she told me this and I have been refraining from doing the water changes just as she instructed (though I was somewhat critical at first) and to my surprise my ammonia and nitrite levels, which had been a little high despite the tank having been cycled, dropped to zero! So maybe the weekly water change schedule really is unnecessary though I do change my filter cartridge every 3-4 weeks as suggested on the package. I guess it is a matter of trial and error though all ammonia/nitrite levels should be measured frequently to prevent fish loss. However this is only my experience and I am definitely not an expert!

As to the first BOLD section above...

Outdoor ponds are a big difference to indoor tanks. Even ponds that are relatively closed ecosystems (with a rubber or other liner) are not nearly as closed as our aquariums so they benefit from incoming rain (which doesn't really add any nutrients but does change some of the water with heavy rains) and also get air-blown dirt, sand, etc. (which brings in macro nutrients, hardness enhancers, etc.) and all the other stuff that makes them closer to a natural pond than our tanks could ever get close to... but even ponds that get too much rain and not enough normal water will suffer low pH, GH and KH levels and the fish will not do as well since Koi and Goldfish do better in higher pH waters.

IF she's been in the hobby a LONG time... and I'm presuming she has if she has a 21 yr. old convict, she probably is still carrying some old habits into the 21st century... and is simply resisting change.... or using her successes to justify her not wanting to do proper tank/pond maintenance. Especially her comment about partial water changes dilluting the "good stuff"... what good stuff... does she mean dissolved fish poop that is slowly turning the water into diarrhea?

God (or Mother Nature for those who don't like God) does frequent partial water changes on almost ALL of His aquariums (with snow, rain, streams, tides, currents, etc.), that for us to challenge this is ludicrous.

Further, SO MUCH has changed in the past 10-20 years in the hobby, trying to hang on to how things were done in the old days would be akin to saying we should go back to the horse and buggy. Heck, we barely knew how the nitrogen cycle even affected aquaria 20 years ago... even 10 years ago... and it really wasn't until the internet exploded that all of this new information became available to the masses.

As to the 2nd BOLD section above...

You could have been having cycling issues (ammonia and nitrite issues) because you keep throwing your filter cartridge away every few weeks. The overwhelming majority of the nitrifying bacteria live in the filter media... since it's like a drive through of all the food they are looking for, so why not live close to the food supply. When you trash your filter cartridge, you are likely putting your tank into a mini-cycle each time you do and that is probably why you kept getting ammonia/nitrite spikes. See my "Filter Maintenance And Cleaning" blog at http://goldlenny.blogspot.com/2007/02/notice-this-article-is-very-important.html and there is also a slightly older version of the article here at AC at http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108685 and this will further explain how trashing your filter cartridges are affecting your tank's ecology and how you can start properly cleaning them instead and save your money. IF you were doing your partial water changes at the same time you were trashing your filter cartridges, this would likely compound the mini-cycle you kept seeing. IF your tap water is treated with chloramine, there will be a slight amount of ammonia released when the chloramine is broken down by the dechlor product. If you had a fully functioning nitrifying bacteria colony, they would immediately consume this extra ammonia and you would never see it on your tests but if you trashed your filter cartridge, then you have the ammonia from the PWC and the ammonia from the fish and only 10% of the nitrifying bacteria left in the tank (on the glass, top layer of gravel, ornaments, etc.) to deal with all of the ammonia so until they could reproduce enough to handle the ammonia, you would get ammonia readings.
 
I didn't completely change the filter media, there is something in my filter called bio material or something like that which you don't change when you change the cartridge so that you don't deplete the bacteria and I definitely will ask her that but so far not doing the weekly water changes hasn't harmed my tank so I guess she knew something about it.

OK... it's good that you are at least keeping some of the filter media but in either case, see my previous post. When you trash that filter cartridge, you are still trashing a certain percentage... it could be 30% or 40% or more, depending on how you have your bio-media set up, so my previous post is still applicable... especially if you have chloramine treated water, which will have a residual ammonia level after using a dechlor. Under normal circumstances, with a fully functioning nitrifying bacteria colony, this residual ammonia doesn't even show up but if you trashed your filter first, then you are taxing the remaining nitrifying bacteria with this added ammonia load and they can take a couple of days to catch up. See my blog about Chlorine-Chloramine for more details. NOW... if you do your PWC first and then do filter maintenance an hour or so later, that would give the fully loaded filter a better chance at converting the residual ammonia through the nitrogen cycle and then if/when you trash your filter cartridge, it won't affect things as much... although there might still be a slight mini-cycle since you are still trashing a certain percentage of the nitrifying bacteria that were happily growing on the filter.
 
Do unto others as you would have it done unto you.

Besides all the scientific and aesthetic reasons cited above, if I had to switch places with my fish for a month, the last tank I'd want to live in is the excrement ridden tanks. "Oh wait a second, I haven't eaten in 4 days, and I see something that looks like food. Yuk! It's fish poo! I think I'm gonna be sick."
 
I didn't completely change the filter media, there is something in my filter called bio material or something like that which you don't change when you change the cartridge so that you don't deplete the bacteria and I definitely will ask her that but so far not doing the weekly water changes hasn't harmed my tank so I guess she knew something about it.

In the meantime I suggest you read the thread and look out for the intelligent answers to the original question. TDS, DOC, etc. are not made up.

I'd also be curious in knowing if she has a degree at all related to aquatic biology. This isn't stuff you normally encounter unless you do OR as a hobbyist you go looking for it...
 
My water isn't chlorinated and I leave the bio-media in the filter as you're supposed to so that the beneficial bacteria colony isn't depleted too much. I will ask her what type of biology she did but all I was trying to say is that less frequent water changes worked for her and so far they have been working for me. I just wanted to put my own experience out there which is what this place is for.
 
My water isn't chlorinated and I leave the bio-media in the filter as you're supposed to so that the beneficial bacteria colony isn't depleted too much. I will ask her what type of biology she did but all I was trying to say is that less frequent water changes worked for her and so far they have been working for me. I just wanted to put my own experience out there which is what this place is for.

A large majority of the nitrifying bacteria reside in your substrate, as well. I see you mentioning ammonia and nitrite levels, have you measured nitrate levels at all? These are just as important as the first two (and water changes are the ONLY thing keeping nitrate levels down, unless your tank is HEAVILY planted)
 
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