Attractive centerpiece pair for 30 gal community?

Betta? Nah. I wouldn't be able to keep them as a pair, and he might harass the bamboo shrimp.
I really want the gudgeons, but they are almost impossible to find.
I do like the blue rams a lot. Everywhere I read says they are difficult to keep though... but people here say they aren't...
 
Betta? Nah. I wouldn't be able to keep them as a pair, and he might harass the bamboo shrimp.
I really want the gudgeons, but they are almost impossible to find.
I do like the blue rams a lot. Everywhere I read says they are difficult to keep though... but people here say they aren't...
I'm also new but I did a good deal of reading about German Blue Rams before getting my one, and I must say that there are a few basic things to do that should go a long ways toward improving your experience and the fish's life.

1. If possible and reasonable, attempt to find a ram that is in water that's similar to yours. Sure, the majority of fish can adapt, but with a fish that is generally a little more sensitive everything working in your favor can help.

2. Don't just buy the first ram you see. I spent more than a month waiting & working with my favorite fish store to buy a ram that was doing well. They were regularly getting shipments with rams, but just as regularly within a week or so some of those rams were showing problems. Over a particularly slow 2 week period, they had 5-6 rams that didn't sell and didn't show any problems at all... finally! I watched the fish interact with each other and the other fish in their tank, and chose the dominant, brightest one. A couple months later, my ram is one of my favorite fish.

3. Take care of your aquarium! 30 to 50% water changes every week are second nature to me. My aquarium is very clean, clear and enjoyable, and my fish are all colorful, active and apparently healthy. Of course, running an Aquaclear 70 and a Rena XP3 on just a 36 gallon aquarium helps a lot too.
 
Ok, Ram questions since this seems to be the most recommended fish here.

I am very interested in RAMS, used to have them, want them again badly.

Here is my dilema, I got two angels. How are they with angels since they are the bth cichlids?
What about betta's? Had one before he just passed away recently he didnt even chase a tetra let alone a mirror. How will they do with angels, like koi angels and marbles and blushings?

Thanks, sorry for the hijack, didnt think making a new thread will help with most the talk in here already.
 
Bettas and rams are both probably the wrong fishes to spend time with angelfish. I would go with something else.
 
Bettas and rams are both probably the wrong fishes to spend time with angelfish. I would go with something else.


actually, angels and rams being kept together is very common and works out great.

angels and bettas on the other hand has disaster written all over it
 
Yup, no betta with angels. The Rams should be fine. I've got 4 German Blue Rams in my 29-gallon, and I love them! I lucked out to find a LFS in the next town that gets their rams from a local breeder, and they get water from the same lake I do! The've been very healthy and are a treat to have!
 
I'm also new but I did a good deal of reading about German Blue Rams before getting my one, and I must say that there are a few basic things to do that should go a long ways toward improving your experience and the fish's life.

1. If possible and reasonable, attempt to find a ram that is in water that's similar to yours. Sure, the majority of fish can adapt, but with a fish that is generally a little more sensitive everything working in your favor can help.

2. Don't just buy the first ram you see. I spent more than a month waiting & working with my favorite fish store to buy a ram that was doing well. They were regularly getting shipments with rams, but just as regularly within a week or so some of those rams were showing problems. Over a particularly slow 2 week period, they had 5-6 rams that didn't sell and didn't show any problems at all... finally! I watched the fish interact with each other and the other fish in their tank, and chose the dominant, brightest one. A couple months later, my ram is one of my favorite fish.

3. Take care of your aquarium! 30 to 50% water changes every week are second nature to me. My aquarium is very clean, clear and enjoyable, and my fish are all colorful, active and apparently healthy. Of course, running an Aquaclear 70 and a Rena XP3 on just a 36 gallon aquarium helps a lot too.

Wow, that much at one time? I had read that 15 to 20 a week was best... is it just cichlids that need more? Like I said, cichlids are something I've never dealt with.
 
In my experience with Kribensis or I was just one of the unlucky ones getting a really aggressive Kribensis but it was not very happy to share the bottom with the Cories and fin nipped them non-stop.
 
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