A uv sterilizer is OK I guess, but in any long term troubles to come, it will not do everything for you. The main ticket here is that you as the hobbyist not over stock and feed your tanks as well as so many other types of issues which could happen here. As well as a QT costing you less then a UV, think of this as well for when you need to treat your main FO tank for ick, it will take a long time before you can think about buying any new fish for this tank. And a UV not help to protect your fish if you not do all the proper maintenance, etc.
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I always hear a lot of good about kick ich. But I also read a lot of bad about it. Personally, I would never add a fish to my DT that hasn't been through QT in a copper treated tank first. Never had Ich once in my DT since it was established. Seen and stopped it plenty of times in QT, though.
Get your fish out (and this is a pain and will teach you a hard lesson about QT for the future
) and put them in a hospital tank. Treat with copper and let your DT sit without fish for 6 weeks or so.
Get your fish out (and this is a pain and will teach you a hard lesson about QT for the future
) and put them in a hospital tank. Treat with copper and let your DT sit without fish for 6 weeks or so.
Although I agree about using a QT as prevention to begin with and I too have used copper before I'd not recommend it for all fish. Some fish do not fare well at all with it. Hypo with a refractometer would be a far safer all around method in my opinion if one was going to plan on something to use all the time.
Rewd, Most likely the worst you heard is a hobbyist main tank has ick due to a new fish in their tanks and it lead them to many problems causing them many other of their fish to died as well. This however is due to many types of fish, such as the blue tang and we all know how hard it could be to place one in our main tanks and all we can do then is to cross our fingers and pray.
If I for one of my larger reef tanks once it all begins, was to get this blue tang, I will leave a few easy corals with a cleaner in the 40 QT, and I for as long as eight weeks will add nothing else to this QT during while its holding the blue tang. I mean, I wont even allow my skin to touch the tanks water, I will ware gloves.
This is like the time when I known of this other person overseas. He gotten himself the blue tang and his tank was a 65 gal tank and he had a skimmer like the very first one every build that the skimmer sets in your tank. I told him that he had no business getting himself a blue tang for his not the tank for it.
But three times his blue tang gotten ick and the first two times he listen to me and I told him pacific things what to do and one was for the next 6-7 weeks, he would add nothing to this tank and the reason his tang gotten ick each time was he thought that he could add some corals or so because he said the tang was looking happy. I told him that when I said that he can add nothing to his tank, it meant nothing and I even gone through lengths to told him to try not to put his hands in his tank. But when his tang gotten ick the third time, he didn't try to listen to me in trying to help it again, and after that, he qui ted the hobby.
Also, I know of a good number of people who use no QT and the trick to their success is not to be in any hurry for one thing. And in preparing their new fish arrivals very slow and slowly. Still myself, now even more so due to that I will be doing three large reef systems, I will need a QT even more than I ever did before.
Only once in my whole life in this hobby did I have to treat a main tank and ever since then, I took precautions not to have to do go through that again and being for having a reef tank, that method of treatment is out of the question.
Grins & Niko, im still in waiting and while waiting, im planning for I just this past week was hit hard with my propane delivery of 250 gals and it cost me $758.79> OUCH!! Im still looking to begin after the starting of the new year the new (old) 150 gal tank, I spoken to Kevin and he knows that I will have him switch over all of the LR and sandbed over to the 150, a long with the lighting.
Photobucket has made some minor changes, so hope I selected the right photo for here is two my grand kids at their school halloween.
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If I for one of my larger reef tanks once it all begins, was to get this blue tang, I will leave a few easy corals with a cleaner in the 40 QT, and I for as long as eight weeks will add nothing else to this QT during while its holding the blue tang. I mean, I wont even allow my skin to touch the tanks water, I will ware gloves.
This is like the time when I known of this other person overseas. He gotten himself the blue tang and his tank was a 65 gal tank and he had a skimmer like the very first one every build that the skimmer sets in your tank. I told him that he had no business getting himself a blue tang for his not the tank for it.
But three times his blue tang gotten ick and the first two times he listen to me and I told him pacific things what to do and one was for the next 6-7 weeks, he would add nothing to this tank and the reason his tang gotten ick each time was he thought that he could add some corals or so because he said the tang was looking happy. I told him that when I said that he can add nothing to his tank, it meant nothing and I even gone through lengths to told him to try not to put his hands in his tank. But when his tang gotten ick the third time, he didn't try to listen to me in trying to help it again, and after that, he qui ted the hobby.
Also, I know of a good number of people who use no QT and the trick to their success is not to be in any hurry for one thing. And in preparing their new fish arrivals very slow and slowly. Still myself, now even more so due to that I will be doing three large reef systems, I will need a QT even more than I ever did before.
Only once in my whole life in this hobby did I have to treat a main tank and ever since then, I took precautions not to have to do go through that again and being for having a reef tank, that method of treatment is out of the question.
Grins & Niko, im still in waiting and while waiting, im planning for I just this past week was hit hard with my propane delivery of 250 gals and it cost me $758.79> OUCH!! Im still looking to begin after the starting of the new year the new (old) 150 gal tank, I spoken to Kevin and he knows that I will have him switch over all of the LR and sandbed over to the 150, a long with the lighting.
Photobucket has made some minor changes, so hope I selected the right photo for here is two my grand kids at their school halloween.
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee81/OldManOfTheSea/IMG_3536.jpg
one thing i read somewhere, is that ich is present in all of our tank... whether we like it or not... fish can naturally defend themselves, its only when they are weakened through transport or some other stressful event that they can become succeptable to it.
That is really one of those debatable things. Some really respected people feel it is possible to have an ich free tank and I lean towards that school of thought. Fingers crossed.
I've seen perfectly healthy fish quickly succumb to an Ich outbreak...with or without being subjected to stress. Some fish do naturally have a resistance to the parasite or develop a resistance from a previous infection, but I don't believe Ich to always be present in our tanks.
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Well back to your question.
Your inverts need to go if the DT tank is the only available.
Since you don't have a QT you can pull your live rock and put it it one of those large rubbermaid tubs with your saltwater mixture and a powerhead.
As far as inverts,what do you have ?
Got any friends close bye with a tank running that can babysit your inverts for the time it takes to complete your treatment?
Just a few thoughts
Good luck
Your inverts need to go if the DT tank is the only available.
Since you don't have a QT you can pull your live rock and put it it one of those large rubbermaid tubs with your saltwater mixture and a powerhead.
As far as inverts,what do you have ?
Got any friends close bye with a tank running that can babysit your inverts for the time it takes to complete your treatment?
Just a few thoughts
Good luck
I've read this many times too. Personally, I don't believe it. Both types of Ich (fresh and marine) need a living host at some point to continue their life cycle. Without that the chain ends and they die.
If it is possible for your fish to build an immunity to the ever present ich (which I DO believe fish CAN build an immunity) it would still stop all of the parasites from progressing through their natural life cycle and again the chain would end.
I just can't see it as being "ever present" based on the nature of the organism.
