Betta breeders in N. Illinois??

Huh, she still hasn't responded.

(Daayda and Queen should get back on topic)
 
lol, I can assure you that MQP does not "lack basic social skills" as she holds herself in arguments better then you apparently do. Hey, you know what, don't take her advice on the filter, let your fish live in a grimy, ammonia filled hell. My guarentee is that he won't reach his life expectancy of 3 or 4 years. ;)


And for the record I live in N.Illinois/Southern WI and allthough I do breed the occasional betta there is no way I would ever think of letting your hands on them.

I wanted to stay out of this, but that attack on MQP was uncalled for and your ignorance became all too much to deal with.


Good day.

Hmm...I never knew basic social skills "apparently" comprised of the ability to argue w/ " ***** "! Either i really am the ignorant one...or you are? ;)

Regardless, you guys really have got me rethinking this gift. Obviously, there's no way i'll be able to afford filtered tanks as i've got the cost of a wedding coming up on top of law school tuition:( That would explain why I'm on this site - to save money thru buying locally.

I think I'll save the bettas for my attendants only and maybe I'll just give the kids clown fish - Nemo right?!?









juuuust kidding!



I hope everyone can sleep better tonight knowing that you've all enlightened me in the way of betta care:)
 
"There are plenty of breeders that keep their fish in beanie baby boxes, or Mason jars. A three gallon bowl is hardly an "ammonia filled hell". "
And how often do most breeders do WCs? About every day to every other day, infact many have filteration systems for them as well. How often do you expect an 8 year old to do one? My guess is around never. Ridab, how often do you do water changes in your fish's bowl? If it's anything less then every 2nd day then waste (and ammonia) is quickly building up in there.

An eight year old will rarely, if ever, do a water change w/out prompting, which is why the OP talked to the kids' parents ahead of time and cleared it with them. And Ridab may change the water in the bowl every **** day, it really is irrelevant isn't it? Has nothing to do with the original question.
 
An eight year old will rarely, if ever, do a water change w/out prompting, which is why the OP talked to the kids' parents ahead of time and cleared it with them. And Ridab may change the water in the bowl every **** day, it really is irrelevant isn't it? Has nothing to do with the original question.

Well everything is relevent when it comes to fish dying or not, IMO. As far as parents being spoken to in advance, what people say they will do and what they really do in many cases is not the same. Someone should want to care for a pet not be forced into caring for them. A kid should not be taught responsiblity with a living creature on the line as the lesson. Just my 2 cents.
 
Yeah Jessicar613, I didn't answer it for that reason exactly:)

thanks to all those who understood and while I have talked the kids parents already and am still more than 100% positive the fish will be taken care of, I guess the hustle bustle of coming into Chicago, staying in hotels, then heading back home, etc might prove stressful for the fish...that's something the ppl on this forum def helped me realize. I don't want them living in small containers longer than they have to on my account...that is pretty horrible.

I still do fully plan on getting them bettas at some point sice they are wonderful/independent fish and because the kids will take care of them w/their parents help but maybe for Birthdays or other events ... cuz again, I don't see any difference in giving a child a puppy as pet for birthday and giving a fish as pet. They both require work and if the parents say they'll do it, then I'm confident they will...maybe I'm reluctant to belive ppl will be that irresponsible or be willing to lie so easily, but those are my 2 cents.

Oh yeah...I still need 12 fish for my girlfriends/attendents and I'm a poor law student, so if anyone does know of anyone in particular, it'd be great!! All the other advice is def good stuff, so I'll start looking into that very soon. thanks again!
 
Cool beans.
 
Well everything is relevent when it comes to fish dying or not, IMO. As far as parents being spoken to in advance, what people say they will do and what they really do in many cases is not the same. Someone should want to care for a pet not be forced into caring for them. A kid should not be taught responsiblity with a living creature on the line as the lesson. Just my 2 cents.

What I meant was, any parent of an eight year old knows when the kid is given a pet, the responsibility ultimately lies with the parent to make sure that pet is well taken care of. So if the parents are okay with that, the fish isn't "on the line" so to speak. A betta really is an easy fish to take care of, and a fun project for parents to take on w/ their kids. Not just to teach them responsibility, but to teach them that it's a good feeling, to create a suitable environment for a creature that depends entirely on you to meet its needs. It is really satisfying to have your fish swim to the front of the tank when you come in the room, recognizing that you're there to feed it. Not so satisfying to watch the fish stagnate in a filthy bowl w/ his fins rotting off.

If a parent hasn't learned by that age, how to say no to a responsibility they're not willing to take on - they're in for a lot more serious problems than a dead fish. lol
 
Just as a totally irrelevant side note- I think a pet- especially a puppy- is a horrid gift. It sends absolutely the wrong message about pet care. Anyway- I'm glad you're not doing it at the wedding. That's good thinking. But for twelve people filtered tanks may be a little costly. If you still want to do it- look at Drs Foster and Smith for the filters- they have this little one called an azoo palm filter. They are super cheap, totally reliable, and best of all for bettas they have an adjustable output. And I know I asked this earlier but do you have an independently owned fish store in your area? they would likely be the best, least expensive route for acquiring the fish themselves. But if you are most concerned with cheap why not just get them at a chain? I don't understand why a breeder is necessary.
 
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