bigger pump?

saltyc

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I currently have an Aquarium Systems Seaclone 150 (I think) skimmer on my adopted tank.
Has anyone tried to put a stronger pump on these, or any other skimmer? After fiddling with this one for what seems like forever, it appears to me that when you begin to pull in enough air to really get some foam going, the water flow is shut down to the point that the air doesn't get enough force behind it to create the foam.
I've thought about switching it out- I have a stronger pump-but if all I'm going to do is have a sw explosion all over my hardwood floor, I'd rather hear it from you than experience it myself?
 
I've swapped out pumps on skimmers--doubled from what they came with--and never had a problem. Still requires lots of fiddling, but it works.
 
ok, thanks! I may not have the time to try it myself, but I'll mention it to my stepson when he gets back later this month-don't know what I'm going to do for a salt fix after that...
 
when you get your skimmer working well mark all your water levels so when its not working you can have a quick inspection to see whats changed ..

that the normal problem with a lot of skimmers is the water level drops through water evaporation ..then all the problems start..
 
I've read that the Seaclones in general are poor choices as protein skimmers. There are modifications you can make to make them work better. I am in fact just starting to read these forums to try to find additional mods to try.
However, I've read that adding a stronger pump does not, in fact increase foam production. I'll post the link here to the site with the mods, but basically i hear that you need to cut down the center tube by a few inches (that the tube that starts the cyclone), and drill out the little hole that the air valve covers. I'm trying to find pictures of the mod, so I'm knowing what I doing before I do it!

Here's the website I found this info at:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/seacloneskimfaqs.htm

Here's the part of the info that pertinent...
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Re: Sea Clone 100 Making one work
(Not sure I sent the email as it shows it was still in email outbox if I did I am sorry to resend it.)
Hello again WWM crew.
Mr. Fenner I will take your suggestion and email Marineland, hopefully they will correct the issues with the Sea Clone. As in general I have been happy with their products.
<Me too... with the exception of this/these rinky dink skimmers>
I know that you are friends with the former owners of the company and you can check with them to verify that I did email them with my suggestions if you would like. I do have some more suggestion for the modification of the Sea Clone. I have not tried either of these. These are just modifications I am pondering and I will try in the near future. Man I need to get a life.
Ok here goes if you think I am off base let me know please.
I am thinking that the tube that extends up into the collection cup might be a little too tall and if I cut the tube down 3/4 of an inch it would work better, due to the limitations of the power head that comes supplied with the unit (word of caution to those who say get a bigger power head, it will not work. It will push more water but you will still have to adjust the air
to get bubbles to collect enough to rise up the collection tube into the cup and this will be the same amount of water and bubbles as the smaller power head. The more water you push the more it will force the bubbles out the bottom of the reaction tube into the return water. I know from trying this).
I think the tube might be slightly too tall to allow the power head to force the bubbles up efficiently. I have not made this modification because if I cut the tube to short, I believe the cup would fill with water easier, not skim mate. (Fluid dynamics for a fish tank, who would of thought we needed to go to college to take advanced math to get a skimmer to work ;-)
<Heee!>
The other modification is the air inlet valve. I think if I got a stainless steel air valve from a surgical supply store, one that is used to monitor oxygen from a tank I could achieve much better air control into the skimmer. The valve that is supplied is very hard to adjust in minute quantities, that is why making the hole bigger worked well. Anyway these are just my thoughts on how to make my Sea Clones even more efficient.
With the other modifications I submitted this skimmer could be the best skimmer on the market for low priced skimmers if Marineland would apply the fixes to their product.
Have good day, and again thank you for being here for all of us who want to be marine biologists, or at least for those of us who just enjoy the serenity of our fish tanks vs. the craziness of our busy lives.
Craig
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Hope this helps,
Brian
 
wow

hey, thanks for the input, gentlemen!
If the tank I have was mine, I'd have tossed the darn Seaclone out a year ago & gotten something else, but...
As it is, I'm not going to buy a $200 or more piece of equipment just to send it back home with my stepson (god-makes me sound like the evil stepmom, doesn't it).
I appreciate the research! I'll keep it in mind when I start my own tank!
 
Just out of curiosity, but what part of Kansas are you in if I may ask? NE, NW, SE, SW, or Central? I am in the NE part of Kansas and have found a couple of good LFS around here, but for the most part I try to go to Kansas City to get my supplies do to the fact that there are more LFS there and a bigger variety of supplies at a cheaper cost.

HTH,

Bradd
 
I'm in central Kansas-near enough to Hutchinson that it make no diff. We have a fairly good LFS in Hutch: its an all-around pet store, named Burdettes Birdies; and a couple of fantastic ones (at least in comparison) in Wichita. The one I like best in Wichita is Sea Dreams. They have a ton of livestock for sale-coral frags on rocks, fish, snails, liverock...
They also have a lot of dead rock, reef bones, etc., plus a good stock of food & chemicals.
There is another called The Aquarium in Old Town, which also has some nice stuff-and better prices!
 
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