bio spira discontinued

You could be right H3D w/ regard to the recent discontinue of product sales by certain retailers. "Dr Timothy A. Hovanec, the inventor" does have control of the patent for the discovery. However my conversation w/ MarineLand took place over 2 yrs. ago when changes in the parent co. structure led to the mass marketing & subsequent product failings. (which btw Dr Timothy A. Hovanec was against) I suspect his control of the patent allowed him to venture on his own for more control. Sometimes mega conglomerates such as MarineLand get more caught up in $$$$ for the stockholders.
Realistically, the way they started w/ the product is the way they should have continued. I'm sure the good Dr. as well as other members in R/D saw this coming. They are used to the concept of a 'controled environment'. Sales & marketing is a whole nother world. Their goal is $$$$!!! "T"
 
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Sounds like Marineland is or should go back to the way they use to promote/sell it with reliability that gave it the fame.

"Dr. Tim" is just promoting a new version that defies his "personal expertise" statements over the last several years.

Patents only last so long and are owned by Marineland since conception, not "Dr. Tim".

Tim is just out for some bucks, IMO..
 
Sounds like Marineland is or should go back to the way they use to promote/sell it with reliability that gave it the fame.

"Dr. Tim" is just promoting a new version that defies his "personal expertise" statements over the last several years.

Patents only last so long and are owned by Marineland since conception, not "Dr. Tim".

Tim is just out for some bucks, IMO..
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:) Could be right Bob. He was in the employ of MarineLand at the time of the breakthrough. Although his research could have given him some exclusive rights. Guess it all depends how it was written up. I did spy this from the parent co. UPG
"BIO-Spira , containing several newly discovered patented and patent pending species of the actual nitrifying bacteria found in closed, freshwater aquatic systems is "biological filtration" in a bottle. It literally works overnight to prevent fish loss due to ammonia and nitrite toxicity. Discovered, isolated and cultured by Marineland Labs, BIO-Spira is the result of 10+ years of molecular biological research to identify and commercially produce the bacteria responsible for nitrification in aquaria. The discovery of BIO-Spira by Dr. Timothy Hovanec, Chief Science Officer of Marineland Labs, and his team has been well-documented and collaborated by other leading scientists around the world and viewed as a revolutionary product that has improved aquarium care"
How much actual control the good Dr. has over any of the existing or pending patents is a good question. "T"
 
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hum maybe he figured out a way to get it to work with out keeping it cold.....
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It has always worked without being kept cold. It has a shelf life of 6 months when stored at room temperature. Most cases of "not working" are probably due to misuse.
 
i just looked over the website for One and Only and it's kinda wierd. . . . good info mixed with outright bad info. Like "some fish are sensitive to any levels of ammonia and should not be added right away" mixed with "one giant danio-sized fish per gallon of water". "Don't put it into the filter because it'll settle into mechanical filtration and just get thrown away" along with "add it to the biological filtration media". Those are right next to each other. . . . It does talk about fishless cyling though, which is cool.
 
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hum maybe he figured out a way to get it to work with out keeping it cold.....

It has always worked without being kept cold. It has a shelf life of 6 months when stored at room temperature. Most cases of "not working" are probably due to misuse.
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I'll definitely agree that in the beginning misuse was the primary cause of failure for the product. Since then however, the 'handling' before it gets to you took precedent. Not real sure about that room temp. storage H3D. Check it.....

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DIRECTIONS FOR USE: Shake well before each use. Use 1 ounce (29.6 ml) of BIO-Spira per 30 gallons of water. BIO-Spira cannot be overdosed. Keep refrigerated. Be sure to shut off any UV sterilizers and remove medication by means of a water change or activated carbon.

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PRINCIPLE INGREDIENTS: Purified water, patented and patent pending pure strains of Nitrosomonas, Nitrosospira and Nitrospira.

IMPORTANT: BIO-Spira is a "live" bacteria culture that is sold refrigerated and must be kept refrigerated until used. It can not be overdosed. Repeated dosing of your aquarium with ammonia removing liquids (such as BIO-Safe, Amquel, Ammo-lock and Aqua-Safe) can inhibit the beneficial action of BIO-Spira. Ammonia removing liquids should only be used to initially treat tap water. It is normal to have a small (<2 ppm) amount of ammonia or nitrate during the first few days after set-up. These concentrations are not harmful and will quickly drop to zero with proper use of BIO-Spira.

Thats the problem w/ transport & storage before you even get to try it. The effectiveness of the product can be compromised either partially or completely. "T"
 
****...such a good product. I just picked up a package of bio-spira two weeks ago from a poorly maintained lfs and the stuff still worked. It helped me seed two sponge filters and a new canister filter.
 
I've been making my own Bio Spira for a few years now. It's called "Lava Rocks/Ceramic Rings/Bio Balls/Media From A Currently Running Filter" and I have found it to be remarkably effective in instantly cycling every new system I start. It hasn't failed me once. And you wouldn't believe how inexpensive it is!
 
What a shame. Bio-spira saved me many fish and hours of work when I ended up doing fishy cycling as a newbie. As many people as have said it doesn't work though, I find it hard to believe that it doesn't need to be kept cold and handled exactly as directed. It's not a surprise they're losing money on it. The people who actually need it unfortunately are usually clueless about using it correctly.
 
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