Bio-Spira not working?

Some of the water conditioners can affect the bacteria in the bio spira. I would say that prime probably does because it neutralizes ammonia. This may be why you are having trouble. Also, how many days after adding the bio spira did you do a water change? It takes at least 2 days for the bio spira to settle somewhere in your tank after being added. If you did a water change before then, you may have siphoned some of it out.
 
I'm new to fish too, so I don't know much, but I can tell you my experience with a Bio-Spira assisted fishless cycle. I was cycling a new 15 gallon for my son. I put in the Bio-Spira and started dosing with ammonia. The ammonia eating bacteria showed up pronto, the tank was clearing the 5ppm of ammonia a day within five days. BUT, the nitrites stayed really high for three weeks and weren't budging. I think the high ammonia might have killed the nitrite eating bacteria from the Bio-Spira.

After three weeks of waiting, I changed out 80% three times in a row until nitrites were at 0. I re-dosed with Bio-Spira while ammonia and nitrites were both at 0, waited 12 hours and then started re-dosing with ammonia. But, this time, I split the ammonia dose in half...half in the morning and half in the evening. I was hoping that, this way, the ammonia would never be high enough to kill the nitrite eaters. The tank finished cycling four days after that. We added fish after another three days and ammonia and nitrite have stayed at 0 for three weeks now, so I'm confident that the cycle was really and truly done.
 
I'm new to fish too, so I don't know much, but I can tell you my experience with a Bio-Spira assisted fishless cycle. I was cycling a new 15 gallon for my son. I put in the Bio-Spira and started dosing with ammonia. The ammonia eating bacteria showed up pronto, the tank was clearing the 5ppm of ammonia a day within five days. BUT, the nitrites stayed really high for three weeks and weren't budging. I think the high ammonia might have killed the nitrite eating bacteria from the Bio-Spira.

After three weeks of waiting, I changed out 80% three times in a row until nitrites were at 0. I re-dosed with Bio-Spira while ammonia and nitrites were both at 0, waited 12 hours and then started re-dosing with ammonia. But, this time, I split the ammonia dose in half...half in the morning and half in the evening. I was hoping that, this way, the ammonia would never be high enough to kill the nitrite eaters. The tank finished cycling four days after that. We added fish after another three days and ammonia and nitrite have stayed at 0 for three weeks now, so I'm confident that the cycle was really and truly done.

Yea thats what I started doing at first and the nitrites levels stayed high for a steady 4 weeks and I read that you could just add fish with the bio spira and because people had great results I decided to stop waiting and empty out and try again. Except the ammonia i was using had surfactant and I heard that was REALLY REALLY BAD. I'm going to keep doing two water changes a day and try for 50% so they go down to .25 at least, because when I was first doing water changes I thought 50% was too much and I would take out more of the good bacteria.
 
Some of the water conditioners can affect the bacteria in the bio spira. I would say that prime probably does because it neutralizes ammonia. This may be why you are having trouble. Also, how many days after adding the bio spira did you do a water change? It takes at least 2 days for the bio spira to settle somewhere in your tank after being added. If you did a water change before then, you may have siphoned some of it out.

No I added fish right away with the bio spira and didn't cycle until about 24 hours later when I saw nitrites started spiking.
 
a good idea is to use only 3/4 of the bio-spira at first, then seal it up tight (get all the air out) and put it back into the fridge. it's not that the ammonia levels kill off the nitrite-eating bacteria, it's that they die off from starvation before there are enough nitrites to feed them. when you get the nitrite stall, add in the rest of the bio-spira and that should push your cycle over the edge and get it done.
 
A small pack would not hurt.

When setting up a small tank, I buy the larger packet add about half and then two days later add the rest.
 
Ok I added the additional packet in today, I also got a yoyo loach, and hes quite fun to watch, but the nitrite levels are at 1.0 so I'm going to do a 25% water change. Am I on the right track?
 
I believe the BioSpira says to wait 24 hrs to change any water to make sure the bacteria adheres to the surfaces in your tank. Prior to that the bacteria in the packet is free-floating in your tank.

In retrospect, it would have been better to do the water change prior to adding the BioSpira. Hopefully it'll catch up quickly.
 
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