Bio Spira

Yeah, that would be helpful......but, ahh well, sales.....

Um, if you could do ME a favor and test the nitrates/nitrites....I would be very appreciative, but I can understand how you wouldn't want to spend 20 bucks on some chemicals....

or actually go into a reputable fish store and have them test it, but usually you have to ask....I usually only test PH and ammonia, if there is a problem with ammonia I then test nitrites/nitrates....so I would say ask for them to check...

Caleb
 
nitrites at 0.25...Is this good or bad at this time ?




I do not have a Nitrate kit...I plan to do a 25 percent water change on the 4th week...Then every 2 weeks after the first
water change and vacuuming of gravel.

The fish have been fed regularly twice a day.
 
Any nitrites (i.e., nitrites greater than zero) are not good. That indicates that all the nitrites aren't getting processed into nitrates.

Not a good sign... in a cycled tank, nitrites should be zero.

Jim
 
So it helps quite a bit but doesn't do what it claims....apparently I'm just antiquated or something, but I knew there had to be a gap in that cycle somewhere, you just can't get in 24 hours what you can with time

Caleb
 
I do not know the specific claims made by the company...


All I know is that my tank is fully stocked, never showed any
ammonia levels, my nitrite level is very low for a 1 1/2 week
setup...Is 0.25 that bad for a 1 1/2 week setup ? O.25 is the
next step after 0.00 on my test kit.

I think I saved several weeks of cycling and gradual adding of
fish. I added the fish on the same day I added Bio-Spira. My kids
got instant fish.

My only complaint so far is that is cost a little over 20 dollars
for a 3 ounce pouch.


Daniel
 
Nitrites at all is bad. It indicates that the product didn't cycle the tank at all, it just is processing the ammonia (most likely it's converting it to ammonium, which is then being broken down by bacteria to nitrites). Not to say you shouldn't be pleased, but understand that your tank will still go through a cycling process, including a nitrite spike.

There were several people who were testing this product, and none of them have posted back with any results. Can't be sure, but I doubt this means the stuff was a miracle cure.
 
Sorry, disagree strongly OrionGirl - how can you say that it is just converting ammonia to ammonium if you have not tested that it is doing that? Dry lab is not science, and not good advice either. How can you say that the tank will still cycle unless you have the data to show that? I have heard second-hand reports of low nitrite readinga after use of BIo-Spira, but those never went any higher and became non-detectable within days. Those were not my data, so I cannot authenticate them, but that certainly does not sound like a full cycle to me.

"Nitrites at all is bad. It indicates that the product didn't cycle the tank at all..." Is not a valid statement. It may indicate insufficient nitrite-oxidizers, but it gives no information about the state of ammonia/ammonium without additional test results.
 
An update....


I purchased an 8-9 inch solver arowana on Saturday (2/1/03)and a 4 inch ( not including tail) Red Parrot and added both to the
72 gallon tank.

Monday night, just took readings....no ammmonia and no nitrites...


Now I have to work on finding a new home for the smaller fish...



Anyone interested in buying a pair of Super Red parrots ?

or 3 giant danios ?
 
The pouch say "BIO-Spira accelerates the establishment of your
bio-filter in newly setup aquaria".

Also says "prevents new tank syndrome"...."prevents ammonia
and nitrite toxicity"...


IT DOES NOT SAY OVERNIGHT CYCLING of tank......I think some
people are expecting this product to do a 100 percent complete
cycle in 1-2 days !!

My view is that this product helps a lot. Takes away spikes
in readings. How many weeks would it take to add all these fish
if we used the traditional method of gradually adding fish ? My
kids did not want to wait 2 months. Kind of boring to start with
2 fish in a 72 gallon tank.


7 Blood parrots ( 2 1/4 - 2 3/4 inches each)
3 Giant Danios ( 3 inches each)
2 Cory Cats ( 1 1/2 inches each)
4 Tiger Barbs ( 1 inch each)
2 Bala Sharks ( 2 1/2 , 3 inches)

PLUS one 8-inch arowana and a 4 inch Red Parrot.
 
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